Uncle Steve's Mega Maiden Zone
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Uncle Steve's Mega Maiden Zone
The Waffle Zone... Episode 362
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This week on The Waffle Zone:
1. Can I Play With Madness?
2. Have a good time!
3. I listened to music...
4. Pink Floyd if you must know!
5. Is my guest a good substitute?
6. 66
7. Ways to win
8. Movie Podcasts
9. AIC Unplugged Talk
10. Ace Sings The Cure...
Hello and welcome to the Waffle Zone. My name is Uncle Steve, and this week we are going to waffle. And um not doing it with me again this week. Uh I'm sure there's at least two or three people out there that are gonna be really upset when I say this, but Matt's not with us again this week. Um but filling in for Matthew this week. See, I'm trying to think how to say his name. I'm gonna say it the way Matthew says it, because then I have a question for this man. I have the man from California that Matthew lovingly refers to as Chipotle. How are you, Chip?
SPEAKER_03I am good. If your question is, do I eat Chipotle? It's been a long time.
SPEAKER_01No, no. My question is, does it bother you that he refers to you as Chipotle?
SPEAKER_03No, because um I'm darn used to it. Because uh having the name Chip uh from an early age, I got them all, you know? Yeah. Dorito chip, computer chip when those words. Okay, yeah, yeah. Uh the the mascot of my college, University of Colorado Boulder, is named Chip, and he runs around in a uh well that that mascot's a buffalo. You know what a buffalo chip is?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's a pile of uh that's the mascot. But yeah, exactly. That's funny. That's that's very clever.
SPEAKER_03Burrito chip, chips and salsa.
SPEAKER_01Um hey, you know, chips and salsa is great. Everyone loves chips and salsa. The other thing that I think we refer to you as this as art or he'll say he's he just calls you Potley instead of Oh, I like that.
SPEAKER_02Sure.
SPEAKER_01Potley.
SPEAKER_03Uh Pele, the great soccer player.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there you go. There you go.
SPEAKER_03Um I'm happy to be here. Yeah, I'm from Los Angeles and uh originally from Colorado, right? Originally from Colorado. Um gonna be leaving Los Angeles in a couple weeks. Uh we can talk about that later, but I'll be actually trudging through Texas. So um Oh, what part of Texas?
SPEAKER_01You're gonna be through the Dallas-Fort Worth area at all?
SPEAKER_03No, um not this time, but I'm gonna drive through San Antonio to New Orleans. Okay, okay. And then we can talk about this later, but as a chance, I'm gonna go to the San Antonio Megadeth and Anthrax concert, yeah. Which also happens to have another band.
SPEAKER_01Which has a which has a headlining band that we might mention here at some point.
SPEAKER_03Yep. So I might see you there if you actually do indeed have planned. I think you you are going to that show.
SPEAKER_01I will be at that show. Me and my daughter will definitely be at that show. So if you're gonna be there, you gotta let me know.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, I'm planning to, because I have an LA ticket bought a year ago. I got it through our friend Villa. He gave me the code for the Iron Maiden fans on pre-sale. Yeah, that's cool. Um, I'm gonna wait to sell it because right now, if I sell it, it's not the demand, you know. So I'm gonna wait a little bit, but I have an LA ticket. I won't be here anymore. Uh I made plans to now move. But the closest concert they'll be playing at from New Orleans is San Antonio.
SPEAKER_01Are you moving to New Orleans?
SPEAKER_03I am going to move to New Orleans. Okay. Family there. Yeah, it's it's a it's an interesting uh thing to do, but uh I have family there, uh parents. Uh I lived there till I was 10. Okay. So I have a history there, just never as an adult. So it'll be interesting to see kind of how that goes. But I'm gonna give it a try for a while. And I, you know, work remote, so it's not about looking for work there because it's there's not a lot of work to do. Yeah, unless you're in hospitality. Uh but it's a fun city. I don't know if you've been there, Uncle Steve.
SPEAKER_01Years and years ago, and I was only there for briefly, so yeah. I would probably enjoy it a lot more now than I would have been. Well, come visit. Hey, you know what? My wife's um family lives in New Uh not New Orleans, in uh Louisiana, so that's there you go.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's a big difference, not to make this into that talk. I guys Iron Maiden fans. We're talking about Louisiana today. No, uh it's called waffling chip. It's called waffling. Yeah, well, the state of Louisiana is pretty diverse, but New Orleans is its own entity. Oh, yeah. The rest of the state's kind of Bible belt-ish, you know, if uh a little bit of things like that. So by the way, this is oh, go ahead, man.
SPEAKER_01No, I was saying it's like Texas and Austin.
SPEAKER_03Yes, oh yeah, absolutely. Baton Rouge is a little bit also like New Orleans.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03This has nothing to do with anything, but I just happened to look at my Instagram, and there's an actress who died out of the blue, who I certainly knew named Hayden Pantieri. She was born in '89, she died in 20. So this girl was on that show Heroes from 20 years ago. She played the cheerleader, and then she was on Bring It On, which was like a cheerleader movie. Yeah, I remember that. Oh, I know why people will know her, especially my mom. There was a show called Nashville for years, uh three music singers, and I guess she was her bottom, but she died at 36, which is never a good sign, you know. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It didn't say car accident or had been suffering from cancer, so that's sad. That's always sad for someone that young to go, golly.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's my TMZ instincts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I I wanted to say that we chip here is a former employee of TMZ, so he's he's been our supp he's our kind of new supplier at times, right?
SPEAKER_03It's funny because I remember talking to you last time when I was at TMZ and I went to the Bruce uh Dickinson concert. That's right. I remember thinking like TMZ wouldn't be covering Bruce Dickinson. The only way they'd cover Bruce Dickinson is if he like went on a rant drunkenly on stage and like started saying stuff, or if he like was caught in a scandal, you know, or his wife was found to be stealing, you know, French diamonds from the Louvre. Like exactly anyway, so we wouldn't cover that, but and so very often metal didn't cross the TMZ voice uh vortex. Yeah, the one time I did now that and not to go on too many waffle tangents was uh Bastard Pussycat, that guy with the guy in the cruise.
SPEAKER_01She jumped off or got they thought she got pushed or whatever. Yes, I remember his name, yes. Yeah, Tami Down, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and uh that was a trip. And I remember also, oh, JT Lee getting shot in Las Vegas while walking that through Mark. Yeah, that was also a story. And we had a person that worked at TMZ, and I mentioned you know her in our chat, but she was younger, like born in 1990, and she loved heavy metal, and she was on there was no heavy metal beat, but when there was a story, she'd reach out. So yeah, she talked to uh Gene Simmons quite a few times, and of course he'll talk to anybody, you know. Yeah, he will, you know. Um, and she talked to uh Jake E. Lee during the time. Oh wow, and I think Tamey and some other people. Oh, also remember it's one of those um hair metal bands that I kind of forgot, but their lead singer died in 2024 when I was working there. All of a sudden, I'll remember the name later, but they had a couple of those, you know, softer hair metal ballad hits. Oh, Firehouse. There you go. That singer. Yeah, he did there. You go, thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01Did you like Firehouse? I I they had their first two albums. I I did not like their wimpy, wimpy ballads. Uh a lot of times I like a metal band doing a ballad, but theirs were just way too tender and and they weren't fun, you know. Um, but their their albums, their first two albums, I thought there were a lot of good rock songs on those albums. I thought they were I saw them live probably a time or two. I remember they were doing a record signing somewhere one time, and me and my friend, I got a picture of it somewhere where we're standing there getting autographs or you know, getting them to sign. Because you know, it's like, hey, let's go, let's go meet this band there. They're at a record store. Wow. What was their big song or the non-ballad that you like? The non-ball oh, wow, what it's been so long. I remember they had a song called Hold Your Fire. Um, but their first album had uh golly, dude, I haven't thought about them in so long. Uh this it's uh Who sings this song?
SPEAKER_03And tell me if it's them.
SPEAKER_02Baby, don't dream me, but that's their song. That's the song.
SPEAKER_03That song I didn't like that either.
SPEAKER_01I did not like that.
SPEAKER_03But I got you. I didn't like that song either.
SPEAKER_01No, they had they had but their albums had like a lot of like deep cuts that were just good songs and that were more tailored to rock rather than God, yeah. I'm oh yeah, I hated that song. And it was it was their real big first hit. Yeah, I think that was it was real, yeah. Thank you for bringing that up. That reminded me of that.
SPEAKER_03Well, again, uh you mentioned TMZ the news. The news usually is when a rock star dies or scale. It's not usually I mean, you have the outlets that do cover, you know, the random stuff. Um which by the way, I'll bring up one later when we talk. I saw something on Twitter that's very interesting that I think uh might start listeners here. So anyway, show is yours, bro. Well, thank you. What are we doing here?
SPEAKER_01We're gonna talk about uh what music we've listened to in the past week. And I'm hoping that you know what music you've listened to in the past week. If you don't, I've got plenty to share. So so Chip, what music have you listened to in the past week?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so this is actually a great week for me because I've actually had more metal slash you know hard rock than I normally, because I don't know if people know me that you know I love all kinds of music, and I can't say that metal is necessarily my favorite genre of all time. It certainly was and is. Well, it was nice having you on chip. Uh exactly. But anyway, so this week though, no, I do have a lot of metal stuff to talk about, and I'm gonna put stuff up. But a couple actually involved some of the bands that uh Villa had recommended, and some I loved. Oh, yeah, some I didn't as much, and that's how kind of things go, right? But basically, I was on a rat kick, and you were on a rat kick.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I did, as I've been packing, I listened to Invasion of Privacy.
SPEAKER_01Funny that you've been packing and listening to Rat like a rat pack.
SPEAKER_03There you go. Uh bum bump. Uh I also, yes, I also it doesn't list it here, but I definitely listened to their first album. And we talked about, or you guys talked about my tweet that you know, did they have a ballad? And I was wrong, they did. Yeah. I swear those first three albums, and maybe Wasp is like that too, and that they hit a certain tone or uh or tempo throughout those songs. It didn't really deviate in in a good way. Exactly. I don't did the first few Wasp albums have a uh yes, for sure.
SPEAKER_01They had Sleeping in the Fire on the first one. Oh, okay. The second one they had, I think, Cries in the Night, and uh that might have been the ballad, and I don't think Widow, I think Widowmaker was a little in the middle of there, but yeah, yeah. But I mean, it's still they were good ballads, though.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of good ballad, I hope he's listening. Good ballad. I don't know. Well, uh you must not be talking about the guy I had on a couple weeks ago, then.
SPEAKER_03Yes, I am. Um okay, so here's one of the bands. I believe this is one that came from Villa or maybe Kirsty, uh Witchcraft. That's it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't know whose pick that is, so I liked it.
SPEAKER_03You would not, because it kind of weirdly reminded me of Tool at times.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So there we go on that one, huh? Yeah. Um I was also following along with Nate's hidden gems when he did the Queen's Drag stuff. Yeah, and I went back to some of that, but notably I went to uh Empire. Um I had already done a Rage for Order deep dive, if you will, like a month or so before. So I was really familiar with that. And I'm always familiar with Operation Minecraft. So I think I can probably imagine all the sounds of that in my head if I wanted to. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03On demand on a desert island on demand, you know. Um, so I did like the band, like I said, Witchcraft uh Legend, but I did not like, and this isn't saying, like, you know, they're terrible for recommending these things, but just didn't hit me the right way, but I did give them a shot. Well, yeah, that's all you can do is try. Yeah, exactly. Actually, one was not them, it was called um Havoc, an album called Conformiside. That was by Nate's Hidden Gems recommendation. Havoc. You know what?
SPEAKER_01Cool cover. Cool cover. Me and my daughter saw them live in uh just a couple months ago. They were opening for Kill Switch Engage with Iron Reagan? Yes, yeah. Oh, well, I also listened to demonetization too.
SPEAKER_03Oh, how do you like that? I liked it a lot. I I got what you I I knew I would. I just had had to be in the right frame of mind for that whatever it is, 18 minutes of Yeah, it's really quick. Really quick. You know, so that so that was very cool though. Uh but yeah, no, so that's who they were. I did they didn't really hit it for me, but maybe live they would have been cool.
SPEAKER_01I they were really talented. And I thought they were like, they were okay, they were good. You know, it wasn't like I thought, oh, these guys suck. But then when Iron Reagan came on after them, I remember going like this is obviously the band Iron Reagan was quick. Their lead singer was joking and making you know funny stuff and saying stuff, and and they were fun, and so I enjoyed them. I told my daughter, I go wait, maybe Havoc was second, but I just remember going, I think Iron Reagan should have played second. I said they were just more fun, you know. But yeah, I enjoyed them enough to go listen to them afterwards, and Havoc, I was like, those are really talented guys, and and yeah, so how old would you say the the guys from Iron Reagan are?
SPEAKER_03Are they were they were they around in the 80s, speaking of Reagan, or are they younger than that?
SPEAKER_01No, they're definitely I'd say they're a little younger than that, but they're it's the same some of those guys are in municipal waste, if you know anything about them, which I don't. Um bass player. I would definitely say those guys are at least in their 40s.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay. So they have some of it. Um going on with my music, the other band was called Hooded Menace. Lacromose Monuments of Hooded Menace. Obscuration. I it didn't hit for me, but it was another one. It came out last it came out on my birthday last year in 2025. So there's that. Did I um that definitely was a villa, I believe.
SPEAKER_01Did I do I'm out? I feel like I did an album review on Patreon uh a while back with that band. I wonder if you did. I'll look. I'll look while you're talking and see. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I feel like I did. And it's been a while since you've done those. Are people? I know.
SPEAKER_01I'm kind of I've been in a in a in a in a bad state on those, so okay. Well, there you go then.
SPEAKER_03Um, I need to get to the final cut. I have it bookmarked.
SPEAKER_01The the people I can tell you, I listened to that album four times today.
SPEAKER_03Alright, we'll we'll wait to talk about that a bit then. Yeah. Um, another big part of my time. Oh, I also went through some Motley Crue albums, which I usually don't too. Okay. But I was packing again, and it was like, this is perfect. It was hot. So I listened to uh Shout at the Devil. Ooh, yeah. I always thought the first album was better than Shout Out the Devil, but I think I'm wrong. I always thought the first one was more raw. Yeah. Looks like kill. Um the Merry Go Round Around. I love that album. But Shout the Devil's really good.
SPEAKER_01And I did do Hooded Menace on June 12th. Lacromos, is that the best album? This album was called The Tritonus Bell.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01I don't remember anything about it right now. I don't remember anything I said about it other than may Oh, and the one before that was Witchcraft Legend.
SPEAKER_03So you did that's where I had those from. Okay, so yeah. All connects. Okay, there you go. Kids, there is value to subscribing to the Uncle Steve. Yeah. If you won't advertise it, I'll advertise it for you.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_03Sign up for Patreon. Choose your amount, choose your adventure, but choose Iron Maiden fandom and other heavy metal fandoms. Yes, absolutely. On Uncle Steve.com or Patreon.com, whatever you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so I just shout the devil. Yeah. Um then I went to Theater of Pain. Now, of course, that's the first album I was aware of in Motley Crue, right? Yeah. But it's not a great album. Like you know what? Songs that aren't popular are decent, but there's some filler on that stuff.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know what? I the last time I played that album, I I I did a thing a while back where I listened to those, you know, uh Shout at the Devil and Theater of Pain. And that's as far as I went with Motley Crue uh back then. And um I'll say on oh, I don't even have it on my phone, but I remember like Louder Than Hell's Good. City Boy Blue. City Boy Blue. You go through the songs, I'll tell you what I like. City Boy Blue starts it, which is weird. I think it's an okay song. Yeah, Smoking of the Boy Room's okay, yeah. Louder Than Hell. That's okay. I think that's a that well, there's a demo for um on The Shout of the Devil called Hotter Than Hell. Yeah, and that's the same, you know, which I think that's a good one. I like that one.
SPEAKER_03Uh Keep Your Eye on the Money.
SPEAKER_01I think Keep Your Eye on the Money is okay. Home Sweet Home. Home Sweet Home's a great ballad, I'll give it that. Yeah, absolutely. It's a great song, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh Tonight, in parentheses, we need a lover.
SPEAKER_01We need a lover to Yeah, it's alright.
SPEAKER_03I like that.
SPEAKER_01I hear the cowbell, I think, in that one. Uh Use It or Lose It. I think that's okay too. He's got that kind of cool chorus, you know. Save our souls. Save our souls for the heaven. I kind of like that one. Okay. Raise your hands to rock. Raise your hand.
SPEAKER_03I don't like that one. I don't like that chorus. Yeah, yeah, it does. Before Bon Jovi. Uh Fight for Your Rights.
unknownFight.
SPEAKER_03Fool Your Right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think Fight for Your Rights is okay. I'm not a big fan of the.
SPEAKER_03And then, yeah, you're right. The the extras, there's some extras in the 40th anniversary version of that. Um, I then did go to Girls, Girls, Girls. Now that was the first one that I owned. Okay. The first concert I went to was Motley Crew with Whitesnake in September of 87. Wow. So that would have been a wild show, I would imagine. Yeah, it was right before my birthday. Um, and I have the same birthday as Tommy Lee. So I remember these girls had this poster, happy birthday, Tommy. You know, the date slash 62, and I'm 72. I'm like, whoa, his birthday's mine. Yeah. I was like, they said happy 25th birthday. Look at how young he was then. He's 25 and he's Tommy Lee, already famous and already and all this. And I'm 15 thinking that guy's old.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no kidding.
SPEAKER_03Well, by the time I'm 25, I'll be way more famous than him. Yeah, exactly. I'll be on Twitter. What exactly? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I I will say for that album, I don't I hate that song. Girls, girls, girls.
SPEAKER_03I like that. I actually do like that song.
SPEAKER_01But the one song that I Wildside is a great song. Great riff. That riff is really great.
SPEAKER_03That starts the album, those two songs. Yeah, it's a Wild Side, Girls, Girls, Girls. Wild Side's a great way to open it. Absolutely. And look, remember, Bon Jovi said this famously uh don't bore us, give us the chorus. The songs kind of get right to the chorus a lot. Oh, yeah. Also, of course.
SPEAKER_01Don't bore us, give us the chorus.
SPEAKER_03That was a formula that apparently Bon Jovi was told early on by a producer. Maybe it was even Mutt Lang, because he did produce, I think, some of that stuff.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know, you think about some of their songs, you know. Literally, uh, was it You Give Love a Bad Name Starts with the Chorus, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's exactly the point. Um, and I think Living on a Prayer comes pretty quick in there, too. Okay, yeah. You know, so um absolutely I did not listen to any Bon Jovi, by the way. But I hope that's good to hear. It's been a long time, especially live, man. I know somebody posted a video.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's been some stuff going around about him.
SPEAKER_03It's just yeah. I did happen to stumble across a TikTok live last night of the Motley Crew concert and wherever they're playing. Yeah, it was during Girls, Girls, Girls, and it was during the solo. And of course, it wasn't Mick Mars playing the solo.
SPEAKER_01John Five, though, he's a great guitar player.
SPEAKER_03Of course. No, you can't dispute that. But then it came back to Vince Neil singing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and then they went they went right to Dr. Feel Good. That's it, which I didn't I'm not a fan of the big song. I don't like that song. That album is when I got off the the Motley Crue plan.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's the only tour I ever saw them on. I saw them. I had a friend that was a huge fan, and we went and I don't like Dr. Feel. Like Kickstarter My Heart's an okay song.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there's there's some decent like Wild Side is why. To me, that always reminded me of it.
SPEAKER_01Fair.
SPEAKER_03You're right, the rest of it not so great, right? Not to me. Yeah, man. Um okay, so this is actually cool. I went through some ju not cool, but I went through some Judas Priest uh 80s. And I mean I'll mention there's a podcast that I listened to that I'll talk about in a second. And these guys aren't even my favorite, but they went through the 80s metal, 80s Judas Priest albums. Okay. Um which are British Steel, Point of Entry, Screaming for Vengeance, Defenders of the Faith, Turbo, Ram It Down.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Now of course your favorite, well, I don't know if your favorite, but the one that we know you love the most. The greatest heavy metal album all day. Right, it's not an eighties album, so it doesn't count in that the those five albums. But I ended up going through point of entry because I wasn't as familiar with that one, but I really I like that one more than uh British.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think I do too. I think I do too. I point of entry is not a big album for me either, so I don't really I can't even think about what's on it. Is it open up to the end?
SPEAKER_03Heading onto the Highway, Don't Go, Hot Rockin', Desert Plains, Solar Angels. Those are great. What does it open with? Heading onto the Highway, which I don't like that one necessarily.
SPEAKER_01I do like the the live version of Heads. Yeah, but it's like I don't need to hear it. You know, it's like I don't know. Do I even have point of entry on my phone? I don't. I don't have it on here.
SPEAKER_03And there's one song that I really don't like on that. You say yes is really kind of like this high-pitched You Say.
SPEAKER_01I can't even think of it right now in my head. Yeah, there's some they have some Judas Priest is really an interesting band because some of like their greatest stuff is some of the greatest stuff ever. And then they just also have some just god-awful things too, you know.
SPEAKER_03They've never had the consistency uh of management, and of course, when you said this, or I think someone says there's never been a Steve Harris, a prime creative force. I mean, as much as Rob is a creative force, he's not the prime songwriter as far as I know it.
SPEAKER_01You have Rob, you had Rob, KK, and Glenn, and they were the three songwriters. Every song was attributed to all three of them, but you didn't have one, like, you didn't have uh the general. No, you know, you didn't have the boss, Steve Harris. Is the buck stops with him. With with them, the buck, you got three bosses that the buck would have, you know, had to kind of get voted on, you know.
SPEAKER_03And correct me if I'm wrong, has you didn't Judas Priest hire outside songwriters?
SPEAKER_01I mean, they've used some, yeah. They've had like Bob Halligan and Has Iron Maiden done that? Uh well, all the outside songwriters were either bought off or or they didn't give him credit, like on Hallowed Be Thy Name or The Nomad. Um but I mean early on, like like I'm pretty sure Sanctuary wasn't written by Iron Maiden at all.
SPEAKER_03Okay, gotcha.
SPEAKER_01It was written by a guy that came into that played an Iron Maiden and he brought the song and then they bought it, they ended up buying it off of him later, you know, because they didn't want to put anybody's name on a writing credit that wasn't in the band. So that's true.
SPEAKER_03Again, the controlmeister of Steve also was he was thinking early on that the history's written by the winners, and he started writing the history.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. Well, and the only it's only happened once where there was an album track, to my knowledge, that was written by somebody not in the band. And it was the the outside writer, if you want to call it that, was Adrian Smith, and it was he had exited the band before uh No Prayer for the Dying was recorded, and but he has a songwriting credit on No Prayer for the Dying, but you know, you don't really look at it like oh he was an outside writer.
SPEAKER_03So I would thought maybe you're gonna say Janet. Yannick somehow wrote before he was in the band.
SPEAKER_01Well Bruce Bruce, well, Bruce was in the band, but he has he has non-writing credits on some of the songs on Number the Beast.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that sounds like they took them away.
SPEAKER_01Well, he he was contracted under Samson while he was working on Number of the Beast, and he has two or three, he's he's alluded pretty heavily to it, like, well, I might have had I might have had a you know an influence on any, you know, prisoner, I think it was Prisoner, Children of the Damned, and something else. So but he couldn't get riding credits at that point because of his contractual agreement to Samson.
SPEAKER_03In as I'm thinking about those five Judas Priest albums that we we talked about in the 80s.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03The hard part for me is determining whether I like the answer was always screaming for vengeance was yes. Absolutely, yeah. I'm starting to think Defenders of the Faith is I don't.
SPEAKER_01You don't, why not? Uh look how it ends. Heavy duty, defenders of the faith, right there. That's two weak, weak songs. I mean, heavy duty is is kind of stupid, really, you know. You know, and then it rolls straight into we are defenders of the faith, which I can listen to them. I don't mind them. I'm not saying they're garbage, but man, that there's uh there's people, I know there's people that don't like certain things on Defenders of the Faith. They'll say, like, um uh what do you call the uh Love Vites? They'll not some people will say, um, what's the song? Pain and Pleasure. They don't like Pain and Pleasure or Take These Chains. Um Screaming for Vengeance. That's on Screaming for Vengeance. And so, like to me, they'll say that makes Screaming for Vengeance a weaker album. Oh, yeah. And I I I disagree because I love Take These Chains. Uh it's more of a it's a lighter side of them. And Pain and Pleasure, I will admit, I didn't start liking that song up until the last several years, but I really like it now. Um Defenders, uh I'm looking at it again here. I I Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker. I'm just saying heavy duty. It's a terrible ending of the it's a terrible ending to a really good album. Gotcha. It's a weekending.
SPEAKER_03Was that originally on the album? On my version as a song called Turn on Your Football. You know what? I'm looking at it right now.
SPEAKER_01I I don't even I can't even think of that right now. I can't even think of how that goes. It was boring. Okay. Now, also on on Screaming for Vengeance, there's an extra track called Prisoner of Your Eyes. It's like a ballad, and that is an incredible song. So to me, Screaming for Vengeance is way better than Defenders of the Faith for me.
SPEAKER_03Is Defenders of Faith number two, or is Bridge Steel and Point of Entry?
SPEAKER_01No, I would I would definitely, I mean, if I'm looking at like just Defenders of the Faith, I mean like The Sentinel, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll, they're all on the live album, uh Priest Live from the Turbo Tour. And I mean, I'm telling you, some of the absolute greatest screams to come out of Rob's vocal cords are well with some of my favorite ones are on that album, like whenever he just Love Bites. You know, when he there's a part toward the end when he's just like, he just goes, he just starts, he just starts going, ah, ah he just holds it for so long, and it's like it's so high, and it sounds so intense. And I'm just like, when I'm driving down the road listening to it, I mean, I'm screaming at the top of my lungs with it because it's so good. I used to have clips of it made. I'll while you're talking, I'll see if I can find. I don't think I would be able to find the clips because of the. I think it was Love Bites, though, was the song, right? I had Sentinel and Love, because there's a part where it comes out and he goes, one to avenge. I wish, oh yeah. Love bites, yeah, there's great stuff in Love Bites. There's great stuff in the Sentinel. Um and Were you a Free Will Burning guy? I'll be honest, man.
SPEAKER_03It's kind of not my thing either.
SPEAKER_01I don't love love free will burning. I love the way he sings it, but way back in the day, that was, you know, I always say, you know, the original Columbia House tapes that I had, and uh this was one of them, was for sure, was Defenders of the Faith. And I remember Free Will Burning just did not gel with me when I heard it. It was like it was fast, and it was just like it was more than I wanted. In a way, it reminds me of, and this might make somebody mad, but it reminds me of or I had the same feeling about the song Screaming for Vengeance, because it's really, really fast paced, and I like this, I like Screaming for Vengeance the song way better than Free Will Burning, but I've gotten accustomed to it where I don't hate it, I'll listen to it, but it's not a a a favorite on that album for me by any stretch either.
SPEAKER_03So but by way of you're saying you like those songs on Pre-Slive, would you say that then you think Defenders of the Faith is the second best album of that 80s run? Um because the other ones, again, are point of entry, turbo, British Steel, ram it down.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I would absolutely put Defenders over Point of Entry and British Steel. Uh, and I'd probably have to put it over Turbo. Even though it's a sentimental favorite, that's where I'm at. Uh yeah, Turbo, I like if I was gonna pick an album to listen to, I would probably pick Turbo first.
SPEAKER_03You know, the first half of the album I would. I would be uh I wouldn't be on it by the time private property. Listen here.
SPEAKER_01Okay, Turbo Guidance. Let me go to Turbo right now. I got Turbo Lover, I love Locked In's really good. Private property doesn't bother me anymore. I used to think it was cheesy and I hated it, but now I don't mind it. Parental Guidance is kind of the same. They're both two cheesy songs. Rock You All Around the World, I do not like. I hate that chorus. Uh Out in the Cold is great. Yes. The worst song on the absolute, the worst song on the album, Wild Nights, Hot and Crazy Days is garbage. It's hot and crazy garbage, is what that is. Wild Hot and Crazy Days. Yes. Hot for Love, I think is awesome. And Reckless, I think is awesome. So I know there's people out there that hate this album, and uh but I really and I I will say this too. I did not like it way back in the day. It's more it it's grown on me more now in the past 10 years than uh than it did the first few years.
SPEAKER_03So Turbo is the first Judas Priest album I ever heard and was ever introduced to, thanks to um not even Headbanger's Balls before that. This is on the Dial MTV Daily album. Okay, you know, and um or the I remember seeing the video for Locked In, and it was like a Mad Max, you know with the skeletons and all that riding the motorcycles, and all this, and I was like, Wow, this is pretty cool, and it's a cool song, crazy. Yeah, then I saw the Turbo Lover video, and uh for that point I was just locked in, quote unquote. Yeah, there you go. And the video doesn't have the full guitar solo of Turbo Lover, they cut out some of the synthesizer stuff at the beginning, yes, so I kind of blew it up every time I hear it on the album, it doesn't sound right to me. Yeah, so I had literally recorded it from the TV to a cassette tape. I had a bunch of like music to MTV recording to cassette tape, yeah, and then I remember the that next fall going skiing in Colorado. We lived there, and every time I tried, every time I hit this one hill, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna listen to Turbo Lover when I go down the hill. So it was my thing, and then the next Judas Priest album I got was actually screaming for vengeance. Um then the next summer Priest Live came out, so it was perfect timing for me to kind of get into you know them and then understand their rest of the catalog.
SPEAKER_01That would have been see, that would have been a little ahead of me because me getting into Priest, even though I had Defenders, like in my you know, Columbia House thing, I didn't like it. Because if I heard the very beginning, the first song, and I just wasn't into it, I was just like, eh, okay, I won't listen to that. And uh the same guy that I got live after death from is the same guy that I got uh priest live from. And uh and then so the first album I would have heard after Priest Live would have been Turbo, and I remember thinking, oh wow, this is a or because I'd heard it on there, but hearing it on the album going like wow, this is a lot different, you know? So yeah.
SPEAKER_03No, I get you. One of the things these guys in this podcast that I was listening to, I think it's called the rock and metal combat I know exactly them guys, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Those guys, I think they're usually drunk when they're yes, yeah, they're pretty and they're very uh Ralph and uh Dr. U. Well no, Ralph is Dr. F and uh uh Ian, Ian Wadley, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Did you do a show with them? Or did they break apart for a while and then do a different show and you were on it?
SPEAKER_01I was never on any of their shows. I've never had any interactions with them, but there was a time where I way in my earliest podcast listening days, I remember I was trying to find a podcast about Wasp one day. I was like, man, and I remember just doing a blanket search and they had reviewed a Wasp album, and I was like, okay, and that's how I discovered them. And I went through and I listened to a lot, and eventually I kind of because they are super crude, and uh it was one of those things where I could never I couldn't play it around the kids ever, you know, because just and I still even though my kids are adults now, I wouldn't even listen to that around them.
SPEAKER_03No, it can be uncomfortable though. Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that because I remember thinking this very thought in maybe like 2008, 2009, when podcasts were first around. I'm like, oh, I wonder if there's like somebody talking about like my favorite bands. Exactly. Yeah, there really wasn't. Yeah, what I found was a couple, and I should one day we should do an episode or something about the the podcast we used to listen to, and there was a couple that were actually more like radio shows turned in the podcast, you know. And so some of those like what was it, Mark Estralla? Oh, I forgot these guys' names. Eddie Trunk eventually ended up doing one, and that was cool. Yeah, but yeah, I used to wish for this and to absolutely have you know, obviously, multiple Iron Maiden podcasts, but you know this, and I said this the first time I talked to you, that I gave you credit, and I still do for the fact that you've continued to do it. And this was I I talked to you in 2022, and I was like, wow, you're one of the few besides Talking Maiden who have actually consistently continued to put out episodes. Most of these Iron Maiden podcasts started and faded. Sure. And the ones who had the best name, remember, there was the guy, the Iron Maiden podcast, yeah. And he's like, I'm gonna do every album and every yeah. That's a terrible British accent. Wait a minute, you sounded more like an Indian. Yeah, I think he might have been an Indian British man, so I might have Okay, maybe you're right then. Okay. Um, but anyway, yeah, I he stopped though. And uh anyway, and you have it, and thank God. But you'll there's there's a podcast for Iron Maiden. I assume there's a Wasp podcast, or at the very least, you know, episodes about Wasp, but you've got to there's definitely, yeah. And these album reviews, you know, and so like there's a couple, there's one guy, is it the Ridiculous Record Reviews?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the Ridiculous Rock Record Reviews. Uh he um golly's name slipped in my mind. Aaron. Aaron, um he he no longer does that podcast, but there's other people, you know, he he basically gave it to somebody else. Got it.
SPEAKER_03I might have been off the because one of those guys you could tell was like reading a script and he wrote it really well, but you could just tell then as time went on, I could tell, oh, you can't hear that he's read you can't hear that he's reading, whatever that, you know? Because you can tell sometimes, like that. Um well, we'll talk a podcast later. Anyway, my point about Judas Priest that these guys made was British Steel was sort of a dumbing down of the Judas Priest sound for American audiences.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. And and I don't I'm I'm definitely not. Oh, that's the one that opens with Rapid Fire. I love Rapid Fire, but um Breaking the Law. Breaking the Law I like the live version after midnight. I like Oh, I hate that song. I hate it. I love that.
SPEAKER_03Go ahead. No, that's so anyway. That's kind of my end of my Judas Priest um uh discussion of music.
SPEAKER_01Okay next band type Oh negative. Oh yeah, because Nate was doing the thing on them too.
SPEAKER_03It was, but also I think it was a little while ago. But for some reason, I think it was on my own one morning. This either it was before this or that, but I woke up late one morning and immediate thought was the thought, the lyric I hate the mornings, which is for a song I think Life is Killing Me. Um it's one of those songs, and he's very deep, you know, and he bellows out, I hate the wall. And I kept doing that and actually made me in a better mood. So then I went on a little bit of a thing and I listened to uh Life is No, I listened to World Coming Down. That's the 1999 album. Is it their last one? No, no, no, no. There was there's there's still shoe more after this. Oh, okay, okay. This one has Everyone I Love Is Dead, which I like a lot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh Creepy Green Lights, Piretta Blaze. And this is the one where they also do a medley of uh Beatles songs, which is probably the I don't know if you like Beatles, but you might like their medley of Beatles more.
SPEAKER_01I've been wanting to listen to typo negative every now and then, like just because I I I was a little bit of a fan for a while, you know. So Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, but I think the album October Rust is probably my favorite. That's the 96 album.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I did like that one as well.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and then I went back to the one that kind of got me into it all all at the beginning, which was Bloody Kisses, right?
SPEAKER_05Of course, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And that was I I remember it was 94, and I had not watched Headbanger's Ball in a long time because I just wasn't into the metal scene. But I remember I was home watching it for Halloween and they played um Christian Woman, I believe. Yeah, I was like, Who are these guys? I was like, whoa. And then I got the album, and man, that album. I always, by the way, I do this, I take out the skits or the short video uh 10 second songs that they have a lot of. So if I go listen to that album, I automatically have those removed from the playlist because I can't stand some of that stuff. It's just like get to the songs, like I'm forgetting the great songs in that though. But some of the um lesser-known songs on Bloody Kisses are still great, you know. Obviously, everybody knows the hits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love them and I think you should. Um, a couple last bands here, and then then we'll get to what you heard. Uh, one that I know you don't love, the Deft Tones. Are they not actually the Deaf Tones, they're called Deft Tones. I always got that wrong. It was our latest album from last year, 2025, called Private Music.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I was just talking about them to a uh guy the other day, and I was saying how my son, they're doing there's a festival that's coming here in October, and they're gonna be one of the headlining bands. And I was trying, I go, there's one band headlining, I go, I can't remember. I go, my son, I couldn't think of the name, and I just go there. I go, man, they just I I kept describing them as this band that just I kept saying worse and worse things, and then I finally go, Oh, we were I I go, let me go through the alphabet. Maybe I can remember. I go A, B, C, D. And as soon as I got to D, I went Deft Tones. He goes, Oh man, I love the Deftones. And you do not, or I just don't have the time of day for them. Yeah, they weren't, they weren't. I I I appreciate that they're rock music, you know. And I've heard some you know, riffs and some of it sounds kind of cool, but it's just not my thing.
SPEAKER_03No, I I got you. It is my thing though. Uh I do love the I also had to check out so last night in LA there was huge concerts. Uh this guy named Noah Cahan sold out the Rose Bowl. The Rolls Bowl is exactly like 80,000, 100,000 people? Precisely. Um, and then also near me was at SoFi Stadium, which is pretty big, someone named Carol G performed. And I think she's largely uh Latina type Latin.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03And then at a at a place next door to that, the forum where I've been to a lot, uh Megan Trainer, um, who some people might know, she had a song that was popular, like all about that Call Me Maybe or something. No, that is um I can't remember her name. That's not her a good guess though. Uh she had a song, I think it was about back that all about that ESS, all about that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't yeah.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, you know, I know anyway, so I had to try it. But I do want to see, and this is and I'll let then I'll hit it up to you, uh man. If you can hear this, I'm gonna play something. This guy, Noah Kahan. I'm not gonna play a song, don't worry. I I don't care. Um I can't believe he's that big, but it's mostly like acoustic singer-songwriter stuff. Yeah. So I but a lot of kids like it. But he apparently, this is a funny video, and the audio will work great. Um, he his voice cracked during a song, and it was kind of funny how he reacted. So let me see if I can play this. Can you hear that?
SPEAKER_01You have to have your um settings a certain way for me to hear it. Uh because I don't hear it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, really? Because I was playing it through the speaker. Okay, well it's the zoom settings.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the zoom settings have to be a certain setting or something. I can't uh I think it has to be under music uh something. Oh, they've changed the way this looks now. Yeah, I don't even want to mess with it. No, I hear like a blip and then it disappears, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh interesting. Okay, well, I'll I'll move along then. Uh not to keep our viewers waiting. But it was pretty funny. He basically starts to talk or sing his voice cracks like Peter Brady.
SPEAKER_01Like that's I was thinking like Peter Brady.
SPEAKER_03Time for a change. Exactly. Um, and then um and he stops, he's like, Oh, whoa, that's terrible, guys. Okay, let me do that over again. And I have to give him credit for that. Like he immediately stopped. Yeah, that's fun. That's good.
SPEAKER_01That's uh good, that's a good uh thing to do.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Well, there's one song I was gonna play for you that I can't now, and it came on my random, and this is Jerry Cantrell from the movie Sinners. What's it called? Sinners. He uh helped produce that the music from the movie Sinners last year, which won Academy Awards and had Michael B. Jordan in it. And on my random uh shuffle, the song, I think it's the song is called Sinners itself. Uh let me see if I can find the one with him on it. And it's very cool, it's just him singing, it's kind of just chill.
SPEAKER_01Sinners original motion picture soundtrack. Yeah, where's the one with him on it, though? I'm digging through it. I got there's a there's one, oh, there's a bunch of here's a in moonlight by Jerry Cantrell and somebody else. Yeah. There's a song called Sinners by Rod Wave.
SPEAKER_03Uh, but there's the one you mentioned, the moonlight probably is the one. And it's it's it's pretty cool. Um I can play it for a second.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. See what it sounds like here. That already sounds cool.
SPEAKER_03It's in the moonlight in the dark swamps of Louisiana. And I won't spoil the movie.
SPEAKER_01That's wicked, man.
SPEAKER_03I love the guitar back.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I guarantee you Kirsty's already downloading this right now. I remember yeah, I remember seeing advertisements for this movie.
SPEAKER_05Mm-hmm. It's I love that movie.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I'm gonna pause it here. Man, that's cool.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna I'm gonna definitely There's a sinister sort of vibe to that guitar in the background. Yeah. That's probably by the composer who composed the music for this and the movie The Odyssey and a bunch of other stuff. And he worked with Cantrell, I think, to kind of create that melody from the movie came out a year or so ago, from what I remember. Um it's definitely cool to see his name pop up, right? Like for me at least. But Jerry Cantrell's doing music. What? Like, you know, it's not every day he does stuff like that. Right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03That's my music, man. Uh went through a lot. Thanks for listening.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Well, I'll get mine out of the way pretty quick. Well, I'll say quickly. I have three artists. I'll start with one. Um well the I'll start well, I'll name one. I already named one album that I listened to four times a day, so I'll I'll save that because that's probably the album I started my week with, and uh I ended my week with it as well. I'm loving, loving that album. It's it it's just something about it, man. There's and the more I listen, the more I hear little things, and um I know that uh well here, I know David Gilmore has kind of talked, you know, smack about it, as saying like that shouldn't have really been an album, it was a bunch of leftovers, blah blah blah. But then likewise, uh and I love it, and likewise, uh, you know, Roger Waters has talked a lot of smack about the two albums that Pink Floyd did without him. And I love both of them as well. So I'm like, you know, uh uh who are they to say, you know? It's it's if it's good, it's good. And we you know, either way.
SPEAKER_02Art belongs to the people, man. They don't belong to the the artists.
SPEAKER_01Yaman. So he had an English and a Jamaican accent real quick. Yeah, I think so. Uh we'll see what else I can who else I can insult with. And you had an Indian accent earlier with an all-world podcast here.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. I won't try an Australian one for for our friends down under. Good day, mate.
SPEAKER_01So um I listened to Rat again this week, but I I went, I kind of did the whole uh catalog this week. I did uh I did Out of the Cellar and Invasion of Your Privacy and Infestation, which Infestation was their very last album. I believe so, yeah. And so I kind of was in the mood to hear more, but I'd played all three of those albums, you know, probably two or three times each. And I was like, you know what? Let me just kind of follow along with uh Out of the Cellar Invasion and go dancing undercover again. And and then I did Reach for the Sky, and then I did Detonator, and then I did the Rat album, and I'll say, I think there are great songs scattered all over those different albums. Like, not every one of them's great, but there's a lot of really good songs on every one of those albums. So I'm I'm really shocked because I never was a big rat fan when I was younger. I had Invasion of Your Privacy in 1985 or six, and that's it. I never owned I owned a Dancing Undercover when it came out, because I remember them saying, or no, no, no. I'm sorry, I owned Detonator in 1990. I remember them going, like, yeah, rat came back with this heavy album, and and being like, you know, you I'm easily I'm a sucker for a sales pitch if I haven't said that already. They love you. I'm a sucker for a sales pitch. And so I was like, man, I'm gonna check that out. I've I've done it for like well, here's how much of a sucker for a sales pitch I am. I, you know, bought the Black Sabbath album with Dio on it in like '92, because I remember just thinking, oh, cool, Black Sabbath and Dio. It's two really big names, and you hear it talked up. And I actually didn't hate that album either. So I Dehumanizer. Dehumanizer. That's the one Dio album I've heard more than any other album, I would say. So got it.
SPEAKER_03Do you like that? Sorry, that's on the rat. Did you like the uh the one with Way Cool Jr.? Is that the 1990 one?
SPEAKER_01Uh which one is that?
SPEAKER_03Uh that's when I did not like them anymore at that point. The Way Cool Jr.
SPEAKER_02is sort of like um I actually kind of like Way Cool Jr. now not some little girl. I kind of like that song too now.
SPEAKER_01You know, I'll be honest, man. I've uh I've really I've really come around on a lot of their stuff, and um it's song like I want a woman, not some little girl, like part of me, yeah. It's not it's not like oh yeah, that's my favorite or anything. But I I don't mind it when I play it. I'm kind of like here, let's see. Um so they had uh um they had Reach for the first three albums to me are almost perfect of that era and statement for what they made of as a band. It was their fourth album, Reach for the Sky, that had I Want a Woman and Waycool Jr. Gotcha.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that's when I was starting to not like them as much then.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a lot of these songs I can't like I'm looking at the titles here, I can't even remember how almost any of them go. But uh like when I'm listening, I'm kind of like I'm digging a little bit here and a little bit there, and I mean, even on uh they have an album, their self-titled album, and um and it's kind of uh like a blue. That was from like the mid-90s, maybe? It was 99. Uh I'm gonna I'm gonna what the heck? I don't I can't remember really, but I'm gonna play the intro of the album. Just it's it's called Over the Edge, and I I I want to say it starts off with a blues, they went more bluesy on this album, if I remember right.
SPEAKER_03This is the 99 album?
SPEAKER_01This is the 99 self-titled. This this is the opening song from that album. We'll see what it sounds like. It was a tough time for metal kids. Oh, definitely, yeah. It might take a minute to kick in here, too. Who was on guitar? Warren was gone, right? Warren, no, Warren I'm pretty sure Warren was still in the band. Warren and I think they actually recorded this as a four-piece. If I'm remembering. If that's what they oh that's not maybe, that's the only thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, there's like I can remember a couple of the names of the songs on here when I see it. But you know, it was it's it's been an interesting uh trip to to uh listen to these guys and just actually because like Stephen Pearcy's voice, okay, because you mentioned it there, like I think I might have said it last week too. It's like I don't think he has the greatest voice, but it's interesting enough to me. Like I I find a certain like it's not pretty. He didn't have a pretty singing voice. He just has kind of this a little gritty, you know, and and just enough personality to it. I guess is I think that's the word I used last week.
SPEAKER_03It's perfect for the style of music, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03He wouldn't have been a good singer, a country singer, or an opera singer, or like Bruce. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But I mean, you know, so it's been interesting. Uh like I'll say I think I named them all Reach for the Sky, Detonator, Rat, Dancing Undercover. Yeah, yes, I named them all. And so it's been interesting, you know, going through that.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna check out that one from 2010 or whatever, because I remember I was just talking to you a second ago about podcasts from a long time ago. Yeah when I first started listening to Metal Podcasts or finding them, they were promoting talking about that rat album. Yeah. It's like, oh, this is a return to form for rat. Okay. I might have listened to it a long time ago, but I'm I'm gonna play it right now.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna play the opening track, just how it starts. I I really, really like the first song on this album. It's called Eat Me Up Alive. To me, this sounds this sounds like rap. When it when he when he starts singing them. His voice is a little different sounding than it sounded in the early 80s, obviously, but it does sound like a rap when he starts singing. If you would have ever told me that I'd be playing a rat song on my podcast and telling people, man, this is good. But it's interesting to actually kind of have gotten into them lately, you know? It's just I'm thinking of poor Matt uh Matthew, if he listens to this. Every time Matt tells me he doesn't like something, I always go like, you like Anvil and Thor and he's closed. Okay, here I'll add one that a lot of people do like that I'll get flacked for. You like Motorhead? You can listen to Lemmy sing. I I mean I'm not into that either.
SPEAKER_03Some look cool. I respect Motorhead, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I do respect them, yeah. There was a post on Facebook today and it said, what's one band that you'd you would never ever want to listen to a full album by and the first band that popped, there were two bands that popped in my head, and I thought, okay, it's got to be one of these two, and so I went with Motorhead.
SPEAKER_03And we know our friend on Twitter is gonna review all of their albums, and I think there's like 25 of the albums.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, I've I've completely checked. He's into them. Like he's enthusiastic. He's like, they don't have a bad album. I'm like, I'm completely checked out. I glance at his stuff, I read maybe a paragraph of Motorhead talk, and I'm like, Yeah, you might as well just review all 25 of them at once. You know? My favorite, here I'll say this my favorite Motorhead song is the one where they were playing a song and Lemmy started singing the words to the wrong song because they sounded exactly the same in the in the song as now and to be fair, I think he was dying of cancer when he was singing it. So and but I have like tons of respect for Lemmy as his personality, and he he never would badmouth, like you know, if there was you remember in um decline of the Western Civilization, and they're asking him about the bands with the teased up hair, and he goes, Hey, good for them. If it works for them, great. He he never would badmouth him, he would just be like very diplomatic about it. And I I I really respect that attitude. It's hard to have a statue at the rainbow or at home by does it have a uh a little um what do you call it, uh slot machine next to it with them?
SPEAKER_03No, but it does have a cigarette or it has a people put cigarette, lit cigarettes or joints, I suppose, in his fingers. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_01That's hilarious. Exactly. Okay, so I'll get off the rat talk here. Um the next band, I'll go to Pink Floyd, because there's a uh something different after that that I uh didn't listen to in the last week. I've listened to Rat and Pink Floyd. So I kind of did the exact same thing. I was over the road last week, uh cross country, from from Texas to New Jersey to California to Texas. So it was full gamut of going cross-country. Um and uh so I listened to the final cut, and man, I just I I need to just do an episode about that album, probably, because I'm just talking too much about it.
SPEAKER_03You and Bruno, I mean me and Bruno, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Um and Roger Waters. And Roger, yes. Oh man, it'd be so uh I listened to The Wall this week. Uh I still think the wall and f Wall the Wall and Final Cut back to back goes really well. Because the wall, the final cut's kind of the leftovers of the wall to a degree, and the the theme a little bit, I believe it's like the school teacher from the wall. Part of the theme on the final cuts about him, like that he was he did come back from the war, and he became a teacher after the war.
SPEAKER_03And a mean teacher at that in one of those.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. It says w one of the lines on that album it says, When you're one of the few t talking about coming back from the war, when you're one of the few to land on your feet, what do you do to make ends meet? And then really quietly you hear him go, I teach. It's a but it's a fantastic album.
SPEAKER_03I gotta listen to that album. You got to it. I've been hearing you talk about it audio.
SPEAKER_01Oh man, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Does it have like audio snippets like the wall does? Oh yes. Yeah, this wall.
SPEAKER_01It's not as many, not as many, but man, there's there's just it's it's very well done. There's one part, there's one line in a song where he says, talking about you you don't have to hear the standard issue kicking in your door, like anyway, talking about like a standard issue boot that they would have worn in the war. And right when he says a standard issue kicking in your door, and you have a big drum pop really hard right when it happens, and it's like it's per just a lot of really well-timed sound and musical effects, and man, it's just and now granted, I've probably I I listened to well here Chip. You know I have a running log of uh Yeah, is it on paper or digital? It's digital, yeah. So I can I can go and tell you how many times I've listened to that album here because it I get it tracks it for me. Um I believe there's 13 songs on it, and wow, holy crap. Um so what's 13 divided by 580? Or 580 divided by 13. Oh yeah, that would be uh yeah, so it'd be like probably upwards of 30-ish, 40-ish times, you know. Uh and I but it's e it's an easy, you know, it's 45 minutes, and when when you've got 10 or 12 hours to kill on a day, and I mean like today.
SPEAKER_03Did you repeat it immediately or do you go to something else?
SPEAKER_01Today I repeated it. Uh well, I've you know, driving, and and it wasn't like as soon as it ended, but I was driving at one point and it ended. I just immediately started it over because I was just like, I woke up today and it was just in my head. I was like, that's what I want to hear as soon as I woke up.
SPEAKER_03So you were driving for this this time? Uh I was listening to it at home while I was driving, you know, just we picture you sitting in the chair strapped down with the you know, the beginning of the movie The Wall, he's got the cigarette with the butt that's like 10 inches tall, and then your eyes are pried open like clockwork orange. Exactly. You're just listening to this over and over again on the show. It's just great, man. Watching videos of like orangutans fighting or something.
SPEAKER_01It's so it's so uh interesting to me though, because like as much as I liked uh Wish You Were Here All These Years and Dark Side and The Wall, those are the three Pink Floyd albums I would have been aware of that I listened to ever. The final cut is the follow-up, it's it's in line with those almost if you you know take out animals. And I had never just played it, and I just I don't know for some reason it just never I was never even ever drawn to it, and and then I just accidentally listened to it, just like because I was like, I'm gonna listen to everything.
SPEAKER_02Right, he did, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then Bruno made the comment to me about that it was his favorite album by them or something, and I thought, you know, and I'd already played it a little bit, so I was like, let me give it another chance or two. And and on the um on the Greatest Hits album, there was a couple of cuts off of it on the Greatest Hits, and I remember when I heard them on there, I remember isolated. I thought, oh, I really these are good songs, so I needed to go back.
SPEAKER_03None of those songs were radio plays, I don't think.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, nothing. Nothing on um on the bottom cut was, no.
SPEAKER_03Especially after The Wall, you know, which had Um Comfortably Numb and Another Brick part.
SPEAKER_01Another brick in the wall, it had Hey You radio hits, yeah, yeah. So okay, so I listened to The Wall, and then I was in this thing where I was like, I was Surprise, surprise, surprise. Oh, I love Gomer Pil in there, yeah. Um so I just kind of started going through everything by Pink Floyd this week because again, I was a lot of, you know, like I said, really totally cross-country. So I listened to Animals uh again, which I'm liking that. Uh then I went then I was going in reverse order. So I went, then I went to Wish You Were Here, then I went to Dark Side of the Moon. Uh then I think uh I did Obscured by Clouds, uh, because this is reverse order still. Metal. Metal. Uh the Piper at the Gates of Dawn. A saucer full of secrets. Yeah, a saucer full of secrets. Um but those were the beginning. I think a Piper at the Gates of Dawn is the first one, and then Saucer Full of Secrets is next. So then I started after Metal, I I started at the beginning and started going forward. So I did Piper, the saucer full, then I did they have an original film soundtrack called More uh Uma Goomma, which I want to say uh the Piper at the Gates of Dawn. I don't really think I have much interest of going back. Uh like I kind of like uh Astronomy Demine or whatever because it's on Domini. Domini. It's on Pulse, the live album.
SPEAKER_03And you know who did a cover of that, right? It was a big hit. What hit? It was an MTV hit for this band, Voivod, in 1990. Oh, did they? Okay. Yeah, I didn't know that was.
SPEAKER_01But listening to uh The Piper, The Gates On, Saucer Full of Secrets, there's just not much on either of those. On more, there's like maybe a random song thrown in here or there that I would think, uh, it's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_02What about set the controls for the heart of the sun?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's on um that's on uh I don't remember which album that's on.
SPEAKER_03Saucerful, I think, or maybe the first one. But I like that one because it's just a weird sort of trippy sci-fi, you know, type of song.
SPEAKER_01That lyric is cool. Set the controls for the heart of the sun. Yep. I remember hearing that lyric when I was, you know, kind of, oh, that's kind of cool. Uh so Atom Atom Heart Mother. Uh and then that was the one with a cowl on it? I believe so. And then that brought me like up to date with at least the final cut. And uh so then um I listened to I I could have sworn I I must not have written them down. I know I listened to uh the the two newest albums, Division Bell and um uh what's the name of the album? Momentary Laps of Reason. But I also listened to uh Echoes, the best of Pink Floyd, and I had told that. I had said that I really loved it, and I do love how one song fades into the others, and they make it do it, they do it flawlessly. My one complaint about calling it the best of Pink Floyd, there's like four songs on there from the Sid Barrett era, and I'm sorry, those do not all belong there. You know, there's that one song about riding a bike or whatever. Oh, yeah. I've got to bike and you know, and I'm just like, oh, this kind of blows, really, you know. Yep, yeah. That's so that's my complaint for Bruno, is is and you is that there's too much Sid Barrett.
SPEAKER_03There's like, you know, I get it, you throw one, maybe one at the beginning and one at the very end, because he was the original singer and all that stuff, but I mean you asked the question, what if Maiden would have kept Paul, what if Pink Floyd would have kept Sid, you know, what would we wouldn't I don't know if we would have had what we what we got. David Gilmore was was huge. But didn't he also he was at there at the same time as Sid, I think, on one of the albums.
SPEAKER_01He played on the sec he was he they brought him in on the second album.
SPEAKER_03So he would have been there contributing, but let's say would Sid still have been the main singer? I guess not, because they could have been.
SPEAKER_01Not on the second album no the first album, the only is the only one that Sid would like sings everything. And then the second album, I I I don't think that Richard Wright sang on the first album, and I'm pretty sure he came along in the second or third album and had a song or two.
SPEAKER_03So now forget his voice is actually pretty central to I I I never knew what he sang, by the way. Richard Wright? Yeah, I always thought that was Gilmore most of the time. Gilmore's well, he sang most of the stuff, but of course And we know when Waters sings because he has a very he's got an ounce accent.
SPEAKER_01Yes, and he always he'll always say his tease really there's certain things I like about the way he sings, and then there's certain things where I don't. So But I can appreciate that he's a great writer, you know. So uh the last thing I listened to was called Pink Floyd at Pompeii. Yes. M C M C M L L. XXII, which I don't know. I'm sure it's a year.
SPEAKER_03It's the same year where you and I were born in.
SPEAKER_01Oh, 1972. Okay. Because that's when. And I really didn't enjoy live at the I didn't enjoy it at Pompeii that much because it was all the older stuff. But like you said, that one uh set the controls for the Heart of the Sun song was cool on there, and Echoes is on there, and Echoes is really cool on there. And um the live version of um, oh, what's it called? Uh Bum Bah Baum. One of these days, I'm gonna Is that called One of These Days? Yeah, one of these days. That's right. I'm gonna cut you into little pieces. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And live, that's when they had a pig fly. I never saw them live. That's when they'd have a pig fly over and something would happen.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. Okay. Um, so that's all that I listened to. And the next one I listened to, the next artist, is one uh that I remember particularly that to pick out to listen to because of something you had said to me a while back. Whoa. You in particular, so that's a really it's good that you're here. Um and so I guess I'll start with the first album I listened to by said artist, which is not the one you recommended, but the second one you'll remember recommending. Speaking of that, let me get it pulled up onto my phone because I did have some some definite commentary about it. This is interesting. Okay. Yeah, I'm building up something. Matt always says I build it up really big and then it falls flat. So that's what I do here.
SPEAKER_03Uh well sometimes I said Matt sometimes will go on, and I'm like, has he revealed yet what, or did I miss the reveal? I know. Sometimes I think I missed it, and I go back. I'm like, no, he hasn't gotten to it yet.
SPEAKER_01I know he'll never sometimes he'll go on, he'll never say. I go, so what what album was it? Oh, okay. Um so uh well I'll name the album that came out that I listened to first by this artist, and it should because you sound pretty up on I think you'd be pretty up on this artist anyway. I listened to an album called Radio Chaos by Roger Waters. Yeah. And um I gotta admit, I didn't care much for that album at all. Um there was a there was one song that I kind of thought was cool. I can't remember, maybe I can't remember what it was, but it was just I don't know. I just it was interesting to hear it because I remember hearing about that album being out back in like 88 or whatever it was, or 87.
SPEAKER_03Probably almost competing with comfort or um yeah, momentary lapse.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. There you go. But the next one I listened to was uh The Wall Live in Berlin, which is the one you did recommend to me.
SPEAKER_03Not as like a recommend as like you're gonna love it, but as a curiosity.
SPEAKER_01Yes, and and I remember you were like, well, the scorpions were on it and all that, and so I was like, okay, at least on the first song. And so I I can't remember all these, but I remember certain people that I thought did a terrible job. Um, one of which was um Joni Mitchell. She ruins Goodbye. Goodbye Blue Sky is such a great song, and she ruins it with her vocals, just sounded horrible.
SPEAKER_03Um I can only imagine what she would sing it like, but yeah, not yet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. In the flip.
SPEAKER_02Goodbye, Blue World, goodbye.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I just I just I just was like, yeah, no thanks. Um but I did listen to the entire thing. I thought the first song with the Scorpions, I was like, the music they were I don't know if they were the ones playing all the music, other than Klaus singing it, but the music was pretty loosely based on the song, you know, it where it wasn't like when you listen to uh like the actual band Pink Floyd, even without Roger Waters, they played the songs correctly, the musically. And a lot of this album just had a lot of ad libby or just didn't play it correctly, and it uh it kind of was a turnoff that way. Um it was cool. I thought uh Klaus did a great job singing in the flesh. I thought he he sang it right, sang the melodies right. All the singers mostly sang the melodies right. I can't remember.
SPEAKER_03You want to have somebody represent a German fascist of Klaus Mike. I'm just kidding. You know, the Pink Floyd character at that point in the movie is not a nice guy. Um, but I'm looking through here. Uh was Willie Nelson on it, or am I wrong?
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna I'm looking through the the artists that were on here right now. Uh Cindy Lopper, like doing her trademark, you know, like uh that little uh thing like she used to do, you know, kind of like What did she do? What song? Uh The Trial. Another Brick in the Wall Part Two. Oh. Like she was Sinead O'Connor did Mother, I guess. And I don't remember this all greatly, but I don't remember thinking that I didn't know who it was singing it until I looked later. And I thought Mother was a pretty was done pretty well. So yeah, I could see her doing a good job on that one. Uh Joni Mitchell again on Blue Sky. I just couldn't stand her at all. I was like, go fall off the stage somewhere, lady. Um, Brian Adams did a couple of songs. I thought he did alright.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I bet he did the song Young Lust. He did Young Lust and he did Empty Spaces. Yeah, where the girl goes up to the apartment or the hotel and he smashes the room. It's like a rock song. That's a great song.
SPEAKER_01Uh and and Roger Waters sang with him on some of them, like where Roger would do a part and then Brian would sing another part, which I thought was cool. He sang the Gilmore parts, probably. Uh, we're gonna get to some Gilmore parts here. Um yeah. Uh Hey You is now you'll probably know who this guy is, but I barely recognize his name. Paul Carrick. Carrick.
SPEAKER_03Isn't he the lead singer of a band that Correct? Yeah, I think he I don't know. I think he's a lead singer of an 80s English band that had a few hits, then he had his own solo correct.
SPEAKER_01I thought he did pretty good on that uh filling in for um for uh Gilmore. I thought he did alright.
SPEAKER_03I'm also maybe getting him choose with a guy named Paul Cardcastle, but anyway, somebody will crack. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um uh Van Morrison sang comfortably numb with him, and I thought he was uh horrible. I couldn't stand his voice for that. Um and I don't really know who he is, I just know he was like a 70s or 60s singer.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was never a fan, but I know he changed his name too, to You See Something because he went uh No, you're talking you're thinking of Kat Stevens.
SPEAKER_01I am, right. Yeah, I definitely definitely. Yeah, definitely not. Uh let's see here. Uh in the I'm just looking to see if there's any others. There was there was one, and I'd have to listen again. I can't remember which song it was, where there was a lady, and I thought she was doing pretty good, but toward the end of her part, she like held a note really high and really long, kind of like people doing the Star Spangled Banner and ruining it. Like, look at me and look how great I can sing. And it pissed me off when I heard it. I was like, go to hell, lady.
SPEAKER_03You know, they call that singing in cursive online. It's like you can't just sing straight, you're gonna sing incursive, like ups and downs.
SPEAKER_01And I I did not like that at all when she did that. I'm like, she did pretty good on the rest of it, I think. But again, I listened to it once, I and I didn't like it enough to what where I would want to play it again. Only way I played again is if I was gonna review it, and you know.
SPEAKER_03And so uh by the way, the Paul Carrick guys want to mention he was in the band Squeeze, but also Roger Waters' band called the Bleeding Heart Band.
SPEAKER_01That's what they're called, that's what they're that's what they're a lot of these songs are attributed to, the bleeding heart band, yeah.
SPEAKER_03He apparently performed lead vocals on tracks from Radio Chaos in The Wall Live in Berlin. Okay. Um and I mentioned I saw The Wall Wall Live in Berlin, either pay-per-view, I know I bought the VHS, it came like in a box, like Operation Mind Crying did, where you got a DVD, or not a DVD, VHS, yeah, so it's thick, and then like a booklet. I don't have it anymore, but I remember getting it because I thought, oh, this is important, you're right, you know. Sure, yeah. The blood wall went down and we're celebrating, and Roger Waters hasn't played this music in 10 years. And let's listen to it. And then I remember watching it with some friends, and I I I don't know who it was, but it was during one of the songs where like three country guys came out with a guitar, and just like, what is this? That's weird. This is like we are just not for me, man. Yeah, I don't remember my history with that.
SPEAKER_01I definitely don't remember that. So here uh so I listened to one other album this week, and it's called In the Flesh Live, uh, another Roger Waters live album. So The Wall was 1990, and In the Flesh was 2000. He also had another live album that came out in 2025, maybe, or you know, another one's not good. Yeah, I kind of think that would be way too late in his career to try. He was born in like 44.
SPEAKER_03He's older than my dad, yeah. He's 83. Yeah, I think. And he's still you know pretty healthy. But that album you mentioned, the last one, I believe he re-recorded with new entry new artists of the classic songs. Like, why would I listen to this when I can listen to the original, you know? Yeah, yeah. And he changed the tempo on a lot of the songs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, yeah, like some of it's like spoken word. I'd have yeah, it's like what I mean, no. So, okay. So I that's a good week though, Uncle Steve. Well, in the flesh live, I wanted to go over this a little bit too. Because this is just a live album. This isn't like, hey, I'm gonna play everything from the wall. So he opens up with um four songs from uh the wall. Then he did two songs. This really kind of sold me on. Man, this is really gonna be great. He's he did two songs from the final cut, and I was like, oh, I would never have heard these live, you know. Which is cool. Um Although I w I was hoping he would have done more. I was hoping maybe later in the show he'd go back to it, but he never did.
SPEAKER_03Uh he did I mean he's been set he's been doing those tours, you know, the wall and uh side. Yeah, he knows where the bread is buttered, you know.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yeah. He did Pigs on the Wing Part One, which I think is sung by David Gilmore on Animals. Mm-hmm. But he did Pigs on the Wing Part. No, no, sorry. He did Dogs. He sings Pigs on the Wing Part One, and Gilmore sings Dogs. But Roger Waters sang Dogs, and I thought, well, that was a little odd. So I had a couple of takeaways on this album from Gilmore singing I'm sorry, from um Roger singing Gilmore lines. There were some spots where he did it pretty convincingly, and it sounded alright. But there were some spots where, you know, because he kind of talk sing sometimes, where I didn't like that. Uh he did Welcome to the Machine and Wish You Were Here and Shine On You Crazy Diamond from Wish You Were Here, which I thought was great. Uh then he did, and this is what uh I uh it's funny you mentioned earlier. Then he did set the controls for the Heart of the Sun, which I thought was really cool that he did that. Uh then he did uh Breathe, Time, Money from uh Dark Side. Then he went into some solo material. The pros and cons of hitchhiking part eleven, uh which, you know, those you could hear the difference of it when he goes into one of those compared to a Pink Floyd song.
SPEAKER_03Crowd goes quiet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He did a lot of um, he did a lot of, you know, he did five or six solo songs. Then he came back and did uh the closing of Dark Side of the Moon with Brain Damage and Eclipse. Uh then he closed it with uh Comfortably Numb, and then he did another solo song after that, which I thought was kind of odd, and that's how the album ended. But uh two hours and twenty-eight minutes of music here.
SPEAKER_03So I'm gonna listen to that because all he's done in the last 15 years or so is the full albums.
SPEAKER_01And it's entertaining. I I found it very, you know, like I said, the final cut, which probably never got played live other than by him, you know, and he he hit Wish You Were Here, good, you know, three out of five songs. He hit most of Dark Side, he hit a good chunk of uh the wall, and and I mean, you know, and he got the set the set that controls for the Heart of the Sun sounds really good on that album, too, I will say, on this album. So for sure.
SPEAKER_03Well, I got to see him, yeah, 2012 Yankee Stadium. He did the wall. And it was great. Other people in the chat have mentioned seeing him do it. Now that was what, still 14 years ago. Uh, so I don't know how he'd be now, but it was fantastic. The musicians were top-notch. Oh, sure. Whoever he has doing the David Gilmore singing sounds like Gilmore, and whoever he has doing the guitar playing obviously nails the Gilmore playing. That's kind of good.
SPEAKER_01I I will okay, I'm glad you mentioned that. I gotta I didn't really like because some of the parts for David Gilmore, he would have a female singing them.
SPEAKER_03Which album are you talking about?
SPEAKER_01Uh this one that I just mentioned, uh in the flesh.
SPEAKER_03I think he changed that when I saw him. It was more like, let me find a dude who sounds like Gilmore.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, you'd think. And then that then there was some Gilmore parts. We had a man singing, and so it was a little change up, and he had um he had um The guitar solos I thought were they were good, but they weren't Gilmore good, obviously, you know. They were you could hear certain parts, and I j and I thought to myself, I prefer Well, I guess it'd be a lot easier to say this about most any band. I prefer three of the four Pink Floyd members doing Pink Floyd songs to one of the members doing Pink Floyd songs. So because Gilmore's playing is I I uh strongly liken him to Adrian Smith in A Maiden because obviously they're both amazing, and um Gilmore's solos are just there's so much emotion when you hear them, and um yeah and have you gotten into Gilmore's solo?
SPEAKER_03I don't think you have, right?
SPEAKER_01I listened, I've only played one of his solo albums, and it was his very first one, I believe, and I didn't like it. Or at least I just kind of thought it was eh, whatever.
SPEAKER_03You know, I was in London, the only time I was in London, I remember he was playing solo at the Royal Albert Hall. I didn't go. Oh I remember thinking like, hmm, like I don't really like his solo, but maybe he'll not that I don't like it, I just don't know it.
SPEAKER_01You know he would have done Pink Floyd stuff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so maybe yeah, that would have been good to do that.
SPEAKER_01What was you made me think of something? Um I did read somewhere uh that that David Gilmore, they said he's never made an album solo that sounds like Pink Floyd, except for his last album. And I don't know if it meant his most recent album or the like maybe one that was before that. Like, but one of his last two albums apparently is a real is a real Pink Floyd vibe, and so it made me think I would like to check one of those out.
SPEAKER_03You know, you should. I think that was I think I remember the music press talking about it that way. When Keith Richards comes out with a soul album, and it's like, oh, it sounds like it doesn't sound like the Rolling Stones, but yeah. So real quick, I just want to say, like you saw you listened to the Pink Floyd Pompeii. I know you're not a fan of watching the videos, yeah, but that movie version that they released a year ago, it's on available now. Yeah, not only has the songs that you heard, like you said, with before Dark Side of the Moon, but you see them in the studio, actually doing the Dark Side of the Moon songs. So that stuff in its shot like the Beatles documentary that people saw where they like use something to make it look super high def. Yeah. And the camera just kind of moves through the studio while they're playing. And I think it's a good mix because those are the songs that obviously you're more interested in more or less than the ones that you heard in in the in the in that. But I'd recommend watching that. Uh put it on the background and just listen to it. Maybe not watch it, listen to it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that sounds that sound that makes sense. That makes sense to do it that way. So well, what about uh I I did listen to one podcast this week that I could talk about.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I I Why don't you go then? Yeah, let's hear it.
SPEAKER_01I well now that you mention it, let me go. I did listen to the waffle that me and Kirsty did because I remember I said something really bizarre on it, and I was like, I just want to hear how I said it and how I came how I responded back to it after it happened. And um but I did listen to uh uh Bill's podcast, Music from a Lifetime, and where he did the Allison Chains Unplugged album. And I know I I'm gonna sound I'm gonna definitely be in the minority here, but I don't have this adoring fascination for that album that everybody else does. Like, I it's cool for me. And like listening to Bill gush over it, like I'm like to me, uh I've gonna sound say this. I don't feel like uh when was that recorded? 96, yeah.
SPEAKER_0396, that late? Okay.
SPEAKER_01I think anybody, I don't think anybody could really totally disagree with me, even though based on what Bill said, he would 100% disagree with what I'm about to say. I love Allison Change and I love Lane Staley and all that. But I feel like there's definitely an element of his voice not being as good as it was before. He hits a lot of great notes and things, and in place, but in places you can hear that he's just not quite as you know good as he was before, and maybe this is just me, because I don't like the album that m that much. Right. Um I absolutely adore you know when he comes on and he sings that we mist uh we chase misprinted lies when he does all that. Sounds great, yeah. On nutshell. I love how it I just I love the opening because you just listen to it and you hear the crowd cheer when this guy walks out and cheer when that guy walks out, and then Sean Kenny walks out and he starts hitting the drums, and then you know, right before he's gonna hit the drums, Lane comes walking up, and Lane doesn't even give him time to keep cheering. He just hits the mic, you know. Yeah, and it's such a great hearing the crowd erupt for Lane is very chilling, you know. It's a really good kind of I love that song.
SPEAKER_03I can't say I love all the rest of the unplugged songs, but that version of Unplugged, especially I like to watch the video because I like to see his face, and I knew he was struggling. We know he was struggling with you know all kinds of uh well, supposedly he did a big shot of dope right before he came on stage. Uh that's kind of what they do. You know, it's kind of how you face life at that point. But we all know by the third, was it the third album with the the three-legged dog, whatever that album was, the self-titled, yeah, his voice was not the same level. And those were quite a good thing.
SPEAKER_01Well, he didn't even hardly he didn't sing as much on that album either. Like Jerry, and and I mean, and I I I'm not saying he sounds like garbage on on the Unplugged. I just it I guess because I just really I love the first two albums. I even love the third album, but I mean to me the third album of Jar of Flies, I assume, right? I like Jar of Flies. I like Jar of Flies and Sap. I like both of those.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I love Jar of Flies. Those first two songs for me, Rotten Apple and Nutshell. Yeah. The rest of them I don't care as much, but those two.
SPEAKER_01Oh, what about like got I Stay Away on there and then on there? And it's all right. Wow. Oh.
SPEAKER_03You know I didn't like when they started to get like that country swing, you know, sort of like it was like faster, but like all the- Oh, well yeah, if you're with us.
SPEAKER_01Like No Excuses. I like No Excuses, but uh No Excuses was a was one of my marriage songs.
SPEAKER_03I remember I always there's two songs that I call that supposed to mean uh message.
SPEAKER_01I was married in that time, like way back when I was really young. Um and uh the girl and me, like she didn't count that as our marriage song, probably that I remember, but I remember in my head I just felt like um kind of like there's a line in this song, I'm trying to think of what it is.
SPEAKER_02Uh no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01And and if we change, I'll I'll love you anyway. That was kind of the line, and I remember I remember thinking, okay, that's us, you know. We'll and if we change, and literally we were divorced like six months later. But my my other marriage song is um is um Interstate Love Song, you know. Oh yeah. There's this line where he says, Ya da. Goodbye. So I always count those as Is that your divorce song, or that's your love song? That's my divorce song, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Um love that, bro.
SPEAKER_01I love that it's Alice and Chains and STP, though. So yeah, uh when I listen to this and and and um let me say this swing on this and don't follow. Yeah, I'm not really that hip. Whale and wasp is a cool instrumental. Um No Excuses I Like, and I Stay Away I Like, but yeah, Rotten Apple and Nutshell are are the biggest gems from and I I like the first three. You like the first two, but um but yeah, I mean uh Bill goes on in all this and um about it, and you know, fair enough. I uh Well he's got a show to do. Yeah, I love Over Now on there. I mean Over Now is cool, you know, because of the music Heaven Beside You. Uh Got Me Wrong is one where I think maybe Lane's voice shows that it wasn't as strong, and and of course it wasn't as strong because he was a crippled addict at that point, you know, and um and it's sad down in a hole. I kind of don't think now and and I will say this too. I don't listen to this album very much at all. I've probably listened to it less than ten times in my life because I just if I want to listen to those songs, I'll just go listen to them on the album. What about the Queens Wreck Unplugged?
SPEAKER_03Do you like that? Or not?
SPEAKER_01I've never ever listened to that fully. And I've been told it's a must listen, yeah. I've I've um I will say though, by Allison Chains, uh their live album, the 2000 live album, which is obviously recorded. Recorded in their heyday and things like that. The one just called Live by Allison Chains, where it's just the rock versions. That is killer. I love, I love that album. I would rather hear that Allison Chainsman. But and I totally understand the importance of them doing Unplugged and getting that out of lane as well. It's very important to their history, and it's it's it was monumental. Um, you know, and uh maybe the unplugged we have it. I'm glad we have it. Yeah, but the unplugged, maybe the unplugs just aren't really for me. I like like watching it once is cool. Like here, like KISS. He talked about KISS, he talked about Nirvana. I think both of their unplugs are both pretty cool. I would probably favor the KISS one over those two because Ace Fraley and Peter came back on on that a little bit, and you know, he it was kind of cool. And KISS was my first real big band, too.
SPEAKER_03So Kulik wasn't during the unplugged, or did he do some songs and no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01They started out with Bruce and Eric Singer. Okay, I gotcha. And then 10 or 12 songs in, they brought Ace and Peter out and they all played together. Or no, actually, they Eric and Bruce left the stage. Ace and Peter came out, they played two or three songs together as the foursome. Or maybe I can't remember, but they all they all ended up playing multiple songs together as well.
SPEAKER_03So okay, gotcha, gotcha. Now, what if Iron Maiden did an unplug? I actually I I would not be that in I'd be interested as a curiosity. Yeah. I don't think I'd need to hear it.
SPEAKER_01I don't need to hear that.
SPEAKER_03I also think they'd pick songs we wouldn't agree with. Like I think they'd pick some simpler, I don't know what we could do an episode on that one day with J. I think what songs would they pick that we wouldn't like?
SPEAKER_01Iron Maiden with a symphony would be cool, but not Iron Maiden unplugged. Right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean, maybe you could really do the Charles Men, obviously. That would be cool, but yeah. You could alter some songs, you know. You could alter like, you know, like when the Wild Wind blows would be interesting, and like Journeyman would be cool.
SPEAKER_03And uh but I'd like to hear an acoustic version of the legacy with like you know 12 string guitars, like ding-ding.
SPEAKER_01There would be some cool things for sure, I guess. I shouldn't say I I would certainly hear it once, you know, if it came out.
SPEAKER_03So maybe that's what's gonna happen in 2028.
SPEAKER_01So I hope me and Bill are gonna be friends after he hears me saying that I just don't but you know what? He loves Dio, and I don't love Dio, and we're still friends, so I think that's a good one. You guys have been able to, yeah. We've been able to work through it. So, um, podcast for you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I did listen to the waffle. I love the waffles lately, and I listened to la was it last week with Kirsty, right? And then the week.
SPEAKER_01Kirsty was and then Ballot before that, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I listened to both of those. Uh not both this week, but I actually listened to the So what you're telling me is you prefer it when Matt's not here. Um I'll text you later about that. Yeah. Uh but yeah, no, um again, good stuff I always love to hear people are listening to, and I love the waffles and things like that. I haven't gotten to the main episodes in a little bit. The last one I listened to, just because I'm behind, is the epic uh songs countdown.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, we did that a few weeks ago.
SPEAKER_03Obviously, a great, yeah, I think that was the end of July. So that's the one I listened to. Okay. I already mentioned the rock and metal combat. They did 80s Judas Priest, which I thought was cool. Okay. Uh the American ugly werewolf in London, that that dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, American.
SPEAKER_03Uh, I'm forgetting his name now. Uh Don Jameson, the comedian, talk about his first concert experience, which happened. The Iron Maiden and Judas Priest made an open for Priest, I think in '82, uh, Number of the Beast tour. And so he talked about that. And of course, we all remember that guy from the um that metal show and other stuff, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Stuff like that. So he's definitely made his career sort of being like a the heavy metal uh comedian. There you go, and hey, we should be able to laugh, laugh at ourselves, right?
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Um I'm listening to a pod, I love movie podcasts, so I won't go in too much detail, but I'm listening to one now where they're gonna go through all the movies of Martin Scorsese uh from Goodfellas and Cape Fear and many, many movies. So start at the beginning, this is called the blank check podcast, and they go through a director's filmography. Okay. Blank check meaning he can pretty much do whatever he wants. So, like after the Odyssey, the guy who directed the Odyssey has a blank check to do whatever he wants to do next. Okay. So that's they're gonna go through Scorsese, and he's got a lot of movies. Another podcast, movie podcast called the Junk Food Cinema Podcast, and they cover movies like Starship Troopers, Ghostbusters, sort of junk food cinema, stuff that's comfort food cinema, you know? Yeah, so they did one on Starship Troopers, which I I listened to. I enjoyed that. Um, and then I've listened to a few about House of the Dragon, a TV show that we uh have been watching. Okay, and then also, I guess, in the metal realm, I did listen to the end volume for all, two episodes of his uh the heaviest songs in the universe. Okay, with that dude, and we like him, and he's really professional, and he talked about scripting out an episode he does, but I kind of looked at his listings to see who he's talking about. So, in this one episode, he talked about Celtic Frost and Slayer. Okay. And another one he talked about, oh, it was a continuation of that. He talked about the death of Joseph Mengela, that's a Nazi doctor who died in Austria. Basically, he was talking about the Slayer song Angel of Death, and it went on to a episode all about the said Angel of Death. So that was great, and then he got into talking about a band called Bolt Thrower, and I pieced out. Not for me. And he likes a lot of that newer stuff that you know I I can't admit.
SPEAKER_01So I'll say this because Bill did talk about on his episode that um Quinn had did or he had done a uh Allison Chains thing. I mean, and it went on for months and months and months, and it was this detailed history of the band up through base, it was real detailed, up through Lane Staley, you know, and and his death. And uh, and and I at the time I was not a fan of that guy, Quinn. I just kind of like he was just really over-boisterous about things at times, and it just kind of got on my nerves. But I thought, okay, if there's ever a band that I, you know, Bill went on about it, and I thought if there's ever a band I could try, it would be Allison Chains. I love Allison Chains so much. Maybe that's the thing that brings us together, you know? And uh it was really, really at a at a certain point I I kind of realized what his personality is, you know, and kind of why he is the way he is, uh, Quinn. And it was really, really well done and so much interesting information. I learned things from it. And uh I would, you know, I Bill says it's the greatest, I don't know if he says it's the greatest podcast in the history of the world or it's the greatest music podcast or whatever. I wouldn't echo that sentiment, but I would say, man, that guy, like you just said, he does his research. He gets, I mean, he is very and he's not like me. Like I'll throw anything out every week, you know? And he he'll skip a month or two or whatever doing research and doing whatever he does, and I really respect that. You know, I really respect because I'm not I'm doing a radio show basically. Every week I got something out, and he's he he's making movies, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's put on an essay, you know what I mean? Uh an audio essay, and he does it well, but he can, yeah, it does require taste. Some of these types of guys, I don't know about you, but sometimes I change the the speed settings on my audio. Sometimes I go and never do that. They talk too fast, sometimes they talk too slow, yeah, um, and I'll go 1.1. I know people do that for me. Uh it might have been Matthew. Somebody I was like, okay, come on, let's go.
SPEAKER_01I love all this, I love all this Matthew dissing. He did tell me to say hi to, by the way, even though he didn't know who was going to be on. I wouldn't tell him. He goes, Well, whoever's on, tell him I said hi.
SPEAKER_03No, I love Matthew, and I'm only kidding, but I have messed with the settings.
SPEAKER_01I'm not kidding.
SPEAKER_03The Quinn guy is a little bit is a little bit spastic, and so if you slow him down a little bit, helps a little bit for that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Um the only other thing I want to mention a couple other things. Uh, I another podcast that I love, and I watch this one on Netflix sometimes called The Rewatchables. It's a big podcast, uh, The Ringer Network, Bill Simmons. They did Karate Kid 2 from 1986. Uh came out 40 years ago. That's the one where they went to Japan, if you remember that movie. And they had the famous song by Peter Sotera, The Glory of Love.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Big hit of 1986.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03Uh, same summer The Top Gun came out, of course, where they Judas Priest had a song that could have been in that album. Yeah, uh Reckless was supposed to be on there. Exactly, but it didn't make it, which I don't think it would have like changed their career that much. Like they would have suddenly become Bon Jovi, you know, to like households and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't think so. But lastly, I just want to mention I watched the final Aussie concert, the back to the Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_01I do remember you telling me.
SPEAKER_03I found I have a service that I my sister pays for. It basically has every movie you can imagine, and then the whole eight-hour show is there. But I just went to the Ozzy stuff, um, and it was just you watched it live, am I right?
SPEAKER_01Like a year ago or July 5th, when it was like I did not watch it live, but I saw a lot of footage that was showing up on like YouTube and things like that.
SPEAKER_03Man, it just reminds you, you know, that not only just of who Ozzie was and the music he did, but the the everything that surrounds Ozzy. The the the the community, the culture, the love. Yeah, and you know, I just sit in there, and I wasn't quite in tears or anything, but I'm sitting there watching this guy, and he knows it's his last show.
SPEAKER_01He knows differently, yeah, no, especially.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and of course he died. Uh I was at TMZ at the time, he died July 20th. So like 19 days later, yeah, he died. And yeah, it's just it's it's it's really tough. But thank God he got to do that show, you know. But I I recommend it, and I'm so shocked. It's been a year plus that that they have not released that on DVD or any format.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I heard they were. I heard, I mean, it was talked about it was talked about, you know, that they were gonna do that.
SPEAKER_03Sharon needs to hire Gene Simmons to do the business to uh upset, you know. He would have no problem, you know, selling Ozzy's, you know, ashes for oh my gosh, yeah. Ozzy once licked the stamp, mate. Here you go. Yeah, anyway, it's that's me though. That's my podcast. That's my my music week and all the other stuff.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Well, we will um let's see here. We will uh I'll do the um where people retweeted the podcast and shared it and stuff and and thank all those people. Um so we got we had a podcast uh and a waffle last week. Uh with Kirsty I did the um Iron Maiden Questions. Uh I'll read it. This week, it's real live Iron Maiden Questions. Yes, the 14th installment of hashtag Iron Maiden questions. With a live feel. That's why I wrote real live. Uh a real live feel this week. Um, theme this week. Short but sweet. We also give the definitive pronunciation, you'll understand. And uh let's see who shared it. It was reposted by the following people. Uh his Royal Dude Nis Dave in the USA, uh Jesse the Riffweiser in Illinois, Mick Nolan, my mate in uh Ireland, in Cork, Ireland, uh Gen Margitani, the um the longest quiet troder in the history of mankind in Chiba, Japan. Um our Finnish friend, great at recommending stuff for you on Twitter. Uh Villy. Willie Vallaverta. Uh Kirsty Prince in Perth, Australia, and uh lastly I've heard of her. Silent Cav and Alice Springs. Yeah, we've all heard of Kirsty. Let's see if there's any quietros for this one. Uh we got two quietros. Uh one of okay, I'll do that one second, because it's gonna be a little longer. Oh, I wonder who wrote that one. So um uh Lord Andrew of Sussex, uh, the most English of English gentlemen, did this and he said, uh Kirsty, quote. I just thought it was because they were foreign. And I go, and Steve says, quote, yeah, but I was talking to an American guy. And Kirsty, quote, yeah, that's what I meant. And then I realized, oh, a foreigner to her. I am a foreigner to her because I'm an American guy, you know. Then so is somebody really. Yes, absolutely. So and then he put uh a picture of Ricky Gervais laughing at me. Uh and the other one here is done by uh the the biggest, the most famous queet Twitter in the world, the award-winning again Mar Yutani, Chiba Japan. He says, Let's see how long this one is. Oh, yeah, that says continued even. I better start, I better get to it. Here is another Iron Maiden question episode. A matter of life and question. And this time, I like how he's H1, he puts it with the album of that number. And this time, the voice of reason has returned, which I guess I I guess he's talking about Kirsty. I don't know. Yeah, she seems that people seem to think she is that. Yeah, seem to think is the key words there. Uh and he so he writes the question in his answers. He goes, uh, which one is your favorite Iron Maiden stage set? If I had to pick one from the shows I've seen, it would definitely be the one from Dance of Death. It captured the walls of a castle and two Reapers flanking the stage. I was already in awe before the show even started. If I could pick one from the shows I haven't seen, it would definitely, it would definitely be Legacy of the Beast World Tour. It was probably the most spectacular stage set, including set changes for each song they have ever done with physical props. I was so close to seeing it before COVID hit. Question two, what is your favorite Iron Maiden lineup? I've experienced only one lineup and I'm glad that it's the best one in their history. It's going to be interesting seeing them in November because this is going to be the my first time seeing them since the lineup change. Yeah. It seems weird to think about it that there was actually a lineup change because you almost it it went it went pretty I thought it went pretty seamlessly. Other than you've seen them since, right? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03You've seen the Simon era.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Okay, got it. Other other than, you know, it's it mu drumming-wise, it wasn't seamless because you can definitely tell it's not Nico. But I mean, it doesn't seem I don't know, it just it hasn't resonated as well for it. You know, it doesn't seem like we talk about the Bruce leaving or the Adrian leaving or whatever. It doesn't seem like it was I don't know, maybe it's because they were literally on tour right after it happened, you know.
SPEAKER_03So Yeah, there was no mystery either. Although I guess there wasn't a mystery that Bruce was leaving, more so who's gonna replace him, right? Yeah, yeah. I guess the changing of the drummer isn't at the same level.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. So it says uh I've uh okay. Three, if you could build your dream made this was a tough question. If you could build your dream maiden lineup from all present and past members, who would it be? I would pick my favorites. Steve, Dave, Adrian, Bruce, Nico, and Yannick plus Blaze, and have them playing live shows like Halloween. The two singers would take turns and sing together on certain songs. I would love to see Bruce and Blaze singing Lord of the Flies together, with Bruce singing an octave higher harmony. Oh, that would be great. The Klansman, Bruce on Higher Harmonies, Blood Brothers, Blaze on Lower Harmonies, and some Paul Era songs as duets. That's that's again, this is why Gen needs his own podcast. But you know what? I'll take his material and use it as my own if I have to here.
SPEAKER_03You know who else would like that, that, that would you just what he just mentioned with Blaze and Bruce? Who? Blaze's agent. Oh, yeah, Blaze would like that. I mean, he's gonna get on the biggest stage of the world. Yeah, absolutely. Shoulder to shoulder with Bruce.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think, yeah, that would be good for him. What is your favorite maiden show from a musical standpoint rather than stage sets? He says Rock and Rio, the Brave New World Tour, was my first, my favorite, and their best live performance, in my opinion. But if I have to go, but I have to go with the Future Pass World Tour since they played five songs from my all-time favorite maiden album, Somewhere in Time, and five more from my second favorite album, Senjutsu. Wow.
SPEAKER_02Matt has no comment on that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He doesn't even know what he's doesn't even know what the hell Jen's talking about. Oh, I have a point to bring up.
SPEAKER_03Remind me of that. Keep going though. No, bring your point up now. You guys did the epic rankings. I went back to listen. The last one you did was something versus Hell on Earth. Matt did not make a choice, but I think he talked.
SPEAKER_01Or maybe No, he didn't talk at all. He he purposely walked away.
SPEAKER_03We had already, I guess, tell us he wasn't gonna talk. So that's why it was weird.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we a long time ago, I was on the Judas Priest cast. Whenever it was it was Tom and um, oh god, why can't I think of his name? The original guy. Um Golly. I feel terrible not remembering his name right now. I can see his face because I've met him in person. Uh anyway, it was those two guys. I've been using Tom's name a lot recently because like like if you just like if someone's gonna disappear, we call it a Tom. He pulled a Tom. But when I was on that episode, Tom had said at a certain point in the episode that he was gonna have to disappear. He's like, I've gotta be somewhere at a certain time. Whatever. And George, thank you, is George. And George was we so we were just like, okay, just you know, send us a message or whatever and disappear or whatever. And so you're listening to the episode, and they never addressed it. It was just like he was there, and then next thing you know, the rest of the episode was just me and George.
SPEAKER_03So Yeah, take us inside to it. You know, it's I think people listen carefully, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but Matt did say goodbye at the very end of that episode.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he was on it listening to you guys talk, I believe, on on that that question.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he he said he just muted himself.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Or cover his ears.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he just he just had to uh mute himself because he he says, I can't really he said, I've seen Hell on Earth played live, but I can't really comment enough, you know. And I was like, okay, fair enough. Okay, um what would your dream maiden stage set be? Uh he said Steve's graveyard idea was pretty interesting. I totally agree with Kirsty. Maybe it could have been their stage if they had done a proper tour for No Prayer on the Road. Unfortunately, they only had to open this up because it gets longer here. They only had Marshall amps stacked up due to their back to basics approach, which I I kind of thought that was cool.
SPEAKER_03Uh at least they didn't have a grass field like the where they filmed that. Exactly. That's the only prompt they brought.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that would have been rough. Then he says uh hopping up and down from the Oh god, I know. Six. What would your dream live set list be? Uh and I know Gen will have this here. This is my dream set list. I assume this would be after seeing the Run for Your Lives tour in November. I picked only songs they played live before, and this would be played by my dream lineup. And then he wrote uh uh hold on. He wait a minute. He he has an asterisk next to main vocal, second or backing vocal. Oh, so he this is with the Blaze lineup, Blaze and Bruce.
SPEAKER_03Right, that that's his favorite lineup.
SPEAKER_01So he says uh one, Wicker Man would be a duet, two, Lord of the Fly is a duet, three, Afraid to shoot stranger is a duet, four, Rainmaker for the greater good of God, both by Bruce. Six Future Real When Two Worlds Collide, both by Blaze. Uh uh eight, Blood on the World's Hand, which would be a duet with Blaze and Bruce, Passion Dale by Bruce, Clansman, uh, Blaze and Bruce, uh, The Mercenary, a duet, Man on the Edge, Man on the Edge, Born as a Stranger, which is a solo song by Blaze, and Hell Oh, I say, uh, and okay, Man on the Edge and Born as a Stranger both by Blaze, Hell on Earth by Bruce, Iron Maiden, a duet, and The Encore, Senjutsu by Bruce, Blood Brothers, a duet, and Running Free a duet. That that would be a really cool show. I don't know, it's a lot of Blaze from my money. Well, I mean he's doing more than half the songs, right?
SPEAKER_03But he's he's doing you know part of the songs with him, and you know. Right, and I know a lot of it's the Brave New World stuff that he co-wrote, so I get and Guinness knows his his his songwriters. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Uh seven, where would your dream life venue be? Seeing Maiden in a smaller venue would be cool, but I don't think they can move around the stage very much since they have five members up front now.
SPEAKER_03Or six if he Gets blazed.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. As a Japanese fan, of course, I would love to see them at the legendary Nippon Boudicon. It also would be cool to see them play at Tokyo Dome, where only one metal band, Metallica, right after the release of Black Album, has ever played, but unfortunately, I doubt that'll ever happen. Seeing them at Donnington Park or uh Vaughan open air would be super cool too. Should Maiden do a Vegas Sphere type residency? Absolutely not. They don't have much time left. If they do a residency, it means that we Japanese fans would have fewer chances to see them. Heck no. Boo. Uh nine. Um, would you attend a virtual maiden show? I 100% agree with Steve and Kirsty. I would be very likely to go if Maiden are no longer touring or have retired, as long as it's not super expensive. And 10, I'm pretty sure it was what who's your favorite member of Iron Maiden? He didn't write the question, he just answered it. It's Nico McBrain. How would that question never have been asked before? Was that I I don't know. I think it was just a simple question. And oh no, no, no. The last question actually was how do you pronounce it? How do you pronounce his name? Oh, because I say a lot of people call him Nico, and a lot of people call him Nico. And I was like, and and Kirsty made the point that when he was a kid they call him Nikki. So it would have to be Nico, not Nico. Right.
SPEAKER_03He didn't suddenly turn Greek or whatever. Exactly. What are you going to do with that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Okay, uh, let me go here because now for some reason the posts are not loading.
SPEAKER_03We're doing the uh waffle post now?
SPEAKER_01Uh these would do the waffle next, yeah. And I will say, um, Bruno McDonald did comment here and he said, nice questions, chatbot. For an ideal venue, I would second Uncle Steve's nomination of Red Rocks. Add N-I-M-E-S in France, Nimes, uh, and Dalhalla in Sweden.
SPEAKER_03Secure just played Nimes. It's an old ampath Roman amphitheater in the middle of France. Kind of like the Pink Floyd at Pompeii, right? Um, Red Rocks, that was your I didn't listen to last week's episode. I have seen Maiden at Red Rocks during the 92 tour. Um, but they also played there in the 84. I wasn't into metal then, but that would have been the Power Slave Live to Death tour was at Red Rocks in '84. That I would do a time travel to that.
SPEAKER_01Oh man. Okay, so David Laird, the Scouts chatbot, he commented on here as well and gave me his answers. So I do want to read his answers because he was the one that submitted the questions. He said, I did mean to send you my answers. Here we go. Uh one, my favorite stage set, uh, like many used to be power slave, but Legacy the Beast took over, especially the Spitfire and Cathedral theme. Very cool. Uh, there's aspects of the new tour which with the tech that I really like too. Uh Question two, my favorite lineup is the current with Niko instead of Simon. Uh question, and they're not showing up in order on here for some reason for me. Uh question three, if I could pick a lineup. I do like Steve's four guitar lineup idea. Although I would go for the current with Niko instead of Simon. Also, I would add Blaze in the mix for a couple of tracks, maybe a dual vocal with Bruce on Sign of the Cross. Uh for my favorite live show from a musical standpoint is Rock and Rio. Excellent. Five. Uh, where's five? Wait, is five not showing up on here for me? Oh, five. Uh theme-wise, I like the graveyard idea, but I would go for a medieval dungeon type theme, especially with the new tech they are using. That would be cool. 6. Dream Setlist would be a long one. I would like them to do a three-plus hour show with two songs from each studio album. I need to think further, though, on what two songs they would be. We'll post at some stage. 7. Dream venue from a very selfish point of view. I would love them to play Anfield Stadium, which is where uh Liverpool plays. Home of the Mighty Reds and three miles from my house. You'll never walk alone, he says. Uh seven, eight. Uh on the Vegas Sphere, I think they I think why not, but maybe like Steve said, for a special event a few nights over a week. Uh nine. I would like to say I wouldn't do a virtual show as live is live, but in reality, I know I would go. As maiden is maiden. And uh, did he answer my last question? He didn't answer my how do you pronounce Nico question. So got it.
SPEAKER_03He thought it was self-explanatory.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03Okay, let me uh I like what he said though about the the two from each, and I just want to say, um, and I'm not plugging this band, my other favorite band, The Cure. They did a tour where they did a song from each album all the way through, and then they went backwards. So in the same set, they ended up playing 24 songs, let's say. Twelve from each 12, so two from each album. And it was a really cool experience. I can't see Maiden doing that for various reasons, but that would be cool.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Uh let's see here, uh the Waffle Zone. Uh this week on the Waffle Zone, one, the Pink Yin to the Rodent Yang. Two, Lepros, Killers, and the Stone Roses, three, Bill and Steve, four, a genius musiker, five, Gens Rebuttle, six, six, six, seven, bloodied hopes, eight, the final cut, and nine, Matt Label Society. Since he loves them so much.
SPEAKER_03We didn't use musiker in this episode properly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, because uh Roger Waters and is a he was a genius musiker for sure. So is Steve Harris, or is Yeah, yeah. Uh the reposts. His role dudness, Dave in the USA, Jesse the Riffweiser in Illinois, Gen Maritani and Shiba Japan, uh Willy Vallaverta, Villy Wally Werta in Finland, um, the official hopeless romantic of the podcast, the Rock of Rola. And lastly, Silent Kev and Alice Springs. And uh thank you all of you for doing that for the for that. I always appreciate that. Let's see here. Uh, and there are uh look like there's several quietroats here. First up, we have uh the aforementioned villa in uh Finland. And he says, I would take the ace version of the time machine over the original any day.
SPEAKER_03Ace Freely version?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, I didn't hear that one. I don't have I ever told you about my time machine. It would basically be a whole song like that. Which one day I what I want to do is get the music, take all the vocals out, and re-record the my ace vocals over it, and and then piece it all together and make it like the real song. It would be funny.
SPEAKER_03It's like those fake infomercials, you know, uh Ace Freely sings the songs of, and you do like the tracks and it goes like an order. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02All the girls I've loved before, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, girls I've loved before. Let's see here. Oh, here I'll do one just for you. When I'm alone with you, you make me feel like I am free again. Sacrilege.
SPEAKER_03You doing the cure love song for everyone who doesn't know that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for those of you that couldn't figure out that genius musicer right there. Okay, next up we got a Doomy McDoom butt. And he says, Steve not liking the stone roses is so expected. And and to that, I'll say thank you. I'm I'm I'm glad that that you would realize that I wouldn't like that. And then he says, Kirsty is back, and that means no Thor talk again. It's been a while, actually, to be let's be give the dude a break. I don't think he's actually talked about Thor in a while. Well, it's come up. It's come up when he's on, because anytime he makes an opinion about something he doesn't like, I'm like, but you like Thor. Oh no.
SPEAKER_03Just like who was on a few weeks ago who liked Notes for Damas? Same thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. There you go. That drove you nuts, didn't it? Well, it's just like, um, what are you talking about? Yeah. No, I everyone everyone has their own opinions. Sure. Next up was Kirsty Prince, and she says, Oh, Manchester, so much to answer for. Ballad, the aforementioned Ballad. He says, uh, great to see Uncle Steve back with a quality guest. I'm curious as to what he'll post next week after he hears this. Standards. He says, Standards have recently slipped. Still, a few Mad Chester references on the go. Mad for it, Steve. Whatever that means. Do you know what Mad Chester was? I mean, vaguely, I know that Ballad talked about it, it was like a scene over there.
SPEAKER_03With that band and the Happy Mondays was another one of those bands.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay. Okay. So next up is Gen, and he has a um he has a meme of uh Mike Tyson sitting on the couch with a on a talk show, and he is like just hysterically laughing and clapping his hands, you know, and pointing and stuff. It's funny. And Gen says, It seems like Uncle Steve always creates new nicknames every time he reads my long comment. And he went, Hashtag Bruce Bruce. I think I was trying to say mostly and cursy together, and I said cursely.
SPEAKER_03So this is a guy who isn't even an English native speaker, but he knows all of the pronouncements. I know. He's got the accents down, like he this man, again, he should be writing books. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Absolutely. So then he comes and he has another one again, does, and he says, Cursedy Prince plus nicely. Oh actually, I must have said nicely, not firstly. Cursedy Prince plus nicely equals cursely. We shall call it cursedly whenever someone makes a well-thought-out, smart comment. For example, Steve cursedly stated so-and-so. I don't know if we'll ever use it for Steve, though. Good point. That's a very fair point.
SPEAKER_03I didn't make any cursely statements tonight, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think I think this is a a cursedly less statement episode. We didn't make the bar of Kirsty Land. Yes. Uh next up, Bruno McDonald, and he says, good to have an ace musicer, Kirsty Prince, back a wafflin. And so much final cut talk that I think I'm now the second. I'm sorry, but I think I'm now the Iron Maiden Zone's second biggest Floyd nerd rather than the first. Hashtag Pink Floyd. And uh I don't know if there's any more because I can't man who's wrote a book on Pink Floyd, so those are high price.
SPEAKER_03Or he's taken the the the wiss out of you, as they say. Yeah, and I have that book.
SPEAKER_01I uh I have a copy in my possession. So signed? No, I bought it off of eBay. So he told me there would he just said that book came out in the 90s. He said, good luck finding it. I went on eBay and I found it immediately. So that's awesome. Yeah, there's lots of copies available there if people want one too. Quite a few, I shouldn't say. I don't know how many, but there was more than one. And lastly, I did a quiet troot, and I don't usually read my own quit trots, but I it's got a a a GIF of Ace Fraley laughing. Oh, we've seen that one. Yeah, I know that one. Yeah, and then it In makeup. In makeup, of course, yeah. On the Tom Snyder show. And it says at the top, quote, genius musicer, end quote. I just I I when I said that, I think I was trying, I was thinking of two things, and I just it came out and I just went. And Kirsty was in the middle of talking.
SPEAKER_03What was the cur part you think?
SPEAKER_01Uh I can't figure that out. I think I was gonna say uh uh I think I was gonna say he was talking about Roger Waters. I think I was gonna say he was a genius music writer. Ah and I think I just said genius musicer, and it just That's the RW R sorry, R R R Yeah, that RWR.
SPEAKER_03Yes, that makes that R C that makes sense.
SPEAKER_01The only thing I could think of is that I I mean I'd have to go listen to it again, but I just remember being like, she's she didn't even hear it when I said it, and then I stopped and go, Did you hear what I just said? I just said genius musicer.
SPEAKER_03I just that's gonna be the name of uh Deep Purple's next album, I believe.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. Yeah, what was the last one?
SPEAKER_03Splat. Splat, yeah. Of course, you know, we had uh Richie Blackmore show up this week, but yeah, so we'll be curious.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. So which I thought, even though I'm not a fan, I do find that to be pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03I wish he would have played a perfect stranger song, but I think that's probably not at his level right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's he's just doing good to get up there and I mean 80, whatever years old he is. So exactly. Well, I guess with all that said, we have uh we've uh got everything out of the way here. So uh before we go, I want to say, Chip, I do appreciate you coming on here. And very well done filling in for Matt. I mean, it's very small shoes to fill, and you did that aptly.
SPEAKER_03Well, thanks for letting me yap and talk and and go into all kinds of the the digressions and waffles that we are known to do. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01So cheers, everybody.
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SPEAKER_01There you go, there you go.